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It’s difficult with pharmas.
They cannot tell you anything explicitly until statistically proven or didproven. And they won’t tell you in private communication as it is potentially material insider info. One has to read in hypotheses.
That’s the difference with commodities. Unless an exploratory oil well . Bang ..gush.
Or bang ..dry. I guess trials from results are even harder as so many phases and data complex and must be interpreted. So much unknown.
But I don’t think you put in 7 years salary without being fairly confident.
I wonder why Oliveira felt he needed to sell. Not short of a dollar.

Thanks for sharing R1. Is good to hear others’ experiences.
Glad you did well on Angle. A fine fine profit. I lost nearly every bean in 2016. I bought Trin at 2p after Land G sold out. A very good company. Now 130p ( divide by 10 as consolidated so equiv of 13p) . Sadly director died suddenly in August. I knew him well. It still has a long way to go up. Ridiculously underrated. Broker target £3.65. I will hold. Next year they should double.
I hold a lot of 4D. I will not sell with all the plus points. I have seen this action in shares so often and it spooks investors( me too). But I have sold out too many times through nerves.Ocado was a binary. It would fail or rocket. We didn’t know.
Of all of them the one I wish I’d kept was a Cambridge iphone chip manufacturer. Forgotten name. Was taken over and went ballistic. I held lots of SNG at 46p a year ago when it went to £2:50. Sold at £1. Out of nerves. Fear is my enemy !!

Same boat. Spooked as well . That is human. Losing nearly 50% value . . 97p ave.
Caution is sensible but essentially at this price there’s not much one can do. No point buying more as it doesn’t dent a large holding. I bought in here originally because of the science and the Nasdaq.
Nasdaq disappointed but I feel the bioscience may be complex but it is not a one-horse pony. I feel particularly with IBS this has much promise.
But a poster can say any old bo***ks and it changes nothing. Only the trials will be the pudding proof. At this price -unlike Mr. Oliveira-we are probably all sitting on red.
I personally find it hard…promise and faith or not. But I held Glencore at 75p and sold. Man Group at £1. Plus 500 at £5.50. H/L at £6. Bwin at a stupid low price. BP at £2. SNG at 98p. Avacta at 99p. Ocado at 55p!!!! And loads a more. I got fearful and sold out And lost out. Even Pog who ripped me off with a right issue 15:1 came good 6 years later. I would never have forfeited my life savings. Out of lack of patience.
I know pharmas are different. Risk of poor results. But 4D has many options here. Not one like Forte And the £750k put in times two is not common. Many AIM companies have zero director holdings. They may earn 100k atear but that’s not huge in today’s market. A fortune to me but CEO’s get paid twice that and more for zilch. Maybe they can afford to lose it yes. But the work done to open up the enormous US market does reflect confidence and not a gamble. I have been to the US over 35 times as my son went to Uni in N. Orleans. The health market there is mahousive. The obesity level which is a national scandal feeds the health industry. The market for new modes of treating cancers /IBS etc. Is beyond compare. UK is just drop in ocean. This doesn’t guarantee success in medical trials and that’s the problem with pharmas. But signs are good to date. And the devil is in the detail. 4D don’t hold back on detail from what I have read. They can’t rush a phase through!
So..fearful ir not…I have not sold a bean either. Share price can drop more and I certainly don’t see it climbing for a while.
My experience of these crash events.
So it’s remain fearful-‘cos that’s what I’m like - and bury in bottom drawer for me.
Watching it drop hurts…but it is what it is.
My bed..lie in it.

Well my BSc and post grad Dip Psych in Psychology “defuncted” IQ as invalid decades ago. So I won’t follow anything to do with that untrue mode of measurement. It wasn’t the most fascinating subject to write an assignment and TMA on but was good to know it is no longer accredited as a valid measure.And that was in 1992!!
Not to undermine your main points.
.These guys are clued in and glued in. Parted with a lot of readies and I agree about commitment.
It of course means waiting.
Something quite hard to do but necessary. My ave. is a little lower now but I can wait.
Fully funded to end 2022 and an excellent write-up by Axel Glasmacher in the RNS.
Just waiting now.

Just a troll with an agenda that’s all.

Some very interesting posts here. Especially the strong anti-govt feeling. Which I fully support having resigned party membership due to Boris and cronies. Worst gov I have ever known. I go back a long way too.
Nov have taken S/H’s for mugs too.
Unacceptable.
But give this 6 months + and then we’ll see. I am on a 70% loss so those on 50%..I envy you :-)
Bad time for some shares now. I am in some of them.
Just means more patience and growing wisdom.
Wishing good sleep to all after tough week so far.

I hate losing money. Not born with silver spon in mouth and worked from toddler to teen in school and Uni and through adulthood for all I could muster. Lost it all once.
All my shares are on large losses and stupendously big red numbers.
That’s just me sharing so I don’t need to be attacked by anyone with honesty issues.
Reason I say it is that I have just re-read the RNS today after a 6 hour drive. It is upbeat and detailed. I am hirting from losses but that’s my problem. The RNS reflected a very detailed overview of where the company is and most importantly where it is heading.
I-like many others-am suffering from megalosses ( am also in Ncyt which is a big anomaly of a company and on a bigger loss).
Mr. Gladmacher gave a good positive and upbeat summary I will say. I don’t read many as good
Panic on the dance floor today.Totally understandable. Me too.
But a ll in all an ok update I feel.
Maybe a dull post but the drive was sh** and I have nil enthusiasm for anything except a takeaway.

Trolls abound

Quite simply …what can make Novacyt change their disdain and neglect of shareholders?
IMO a very difficult question.
A line has been drawn. They deserve no bonus certainly. Not sure GM deserves his rich pickings.
There is no guaranteed leverage that we can count on to make sure we, as common shareholders, are valued and the share price supported.
All our ( and my ) moaning cannot be guaranteed to achieve a thing.
Status quo and laissez-faire and same old i.e. apathy are very powerful and seductive in any institution.
A message has been sent but no’one has to read it or adapt because of it.
It saddens me knowing the truth about many/most companies’ approach to shareholders.
As a longer term holder this is very hard. 19th Oct is not an attended meeting. It is a potentially easy cop-out.
All IMO of course.

You talk such embarrassing drivel that you were filtered on your first post.
Take a hint.
Whatever you’re saying is a reflection of you and not me.
Arrogance is a really ugly trait.
End
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Dammit “Up”

Lol
You couldn’t make it ip

They should have a choice above instead of no opinion….not a clue!!!
This has to bottom somewhere. But absolutely nobody ( except certain big shorters) can call the bottom. So it’s “ not a clue”.
BOD getting involved. I have all sorts of ideas why not. But directors don’t tend to any more. Used to. Things can change.
Stock market is a regulated casino but a lot done behind closed doors and then we find out about it . Often the hard way.
Me? Just gonna let this ride .As tightly controlled as a puppet. Mm’s in charge responding to clients. Oliveira one of them. But if you look at the last 10 mins. trading when it hit sub 60 there were large buys. Maybe buy orders? No idea. Looked like a set-up to me.
See what tomorrow brings…….

Coldbrew:- agreed

Paid deramper!!
So posters like you really do exist.
Makes a movkery of honest discussion and a mockery of this chatboard. Disagree? Then call someone a ramper/deramper.
Seriously seriously inane!!!
Need to get in touch with reality.
Frankly pathetic

Russky
Please
Are you serious or eating the wrong mushrooms?????
Just gimme a break with such a stupid and ridiculous post.
You should be paid for conspi****** of the year.
Incredibly stupid post

Nicely controlled buy -up

carefully orchestrated sell-off.
Teist-stick -or jack it in ( giving away).
We have these choices.
But can control nothing.
Very cleverly done.
( hirts me just as much as I am losing a great deal along with Ncyt but you only lose when you sell)
Expect nothing
This will be a long time. Like the other share.
Expect nothing. It is a big sell-off.

The matter in our favour is that no AGM can happen without 20 and 25%. I suspect there will be behind the scenes lobbying of certain larger shareholders in order to make up the difference. Naughty naughty stuff but we would never know. They may only have 1 or 2 percent to make up..who knows. All is fair in love and business. If they can get away with stuff I am sure they will try. I trust no company. Fingers burned badly from doing so.
Re. changing its approach to S/H in general..ypu can take a horse to water……….
Yes I ses this as waiting up to a year for reality and the dispute resolution . I said so many times this week.
It hurts but we have to embrace reality or we are in denial .

To appease justly disgruntled shareholders. Both sides of channel.
74m in cash . Buyback . Support share price. Keep the labs workiing but look at the truth and address it.
There can be no AGM nor resolutions agreed without shareholder approval.
It would be interesting to know the % by which the quora failed.