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Yeah I saw that, he still didn't really get an admission from indepth, despite painting him into a corner! I've given up on indepth now, as since the extra funding has convinced me he has an agenda rather than just a negative outlook on cineworld, you simply can't move him from his stance, one gem was, if cineworld doesnt take any money next year it won't survive, well no sh*t!
Thanks, realise the thread wasn't for asking newb questions, last one I promise! What percentage is the rental overnight, if a share stagnated for a week, do you pay to keep open therefore need an increasing larger increase just to break even, btw they are big boy numbers for sure lth! Hope it's a good pay day when you close!
OK cheers guys, so long cfd's are similar to share holding for the gains except 212 have changed rules so if you had the spare money you could keep it open but 1:5 to 1:2 is a big change. On the way down, you would need to put more money in if you want to keep it open pass a certain point or just lose what was already in? As I say I've deliberately not looked into it, as don't trust myself! Well hope it flys on mon/Tues so you can stick it to them, by all means change new cfds at different leverages but seems rather unfair forcing closing on 'contracts' already taken up because they want 2.5 times more money held against it. Last silly question, if you have put same money to was set aside for leverages, rental etc into the shares at those prices what is the difference between the profits, sorry if that's just being noisy now, im assuming the cfd pay out is far greater but have no idea how much more, ie share at say 20pto60p, 300% what's the return difference on cfd? Use £1k, ie £3k on share, on cfd what could that £1k make? Is it worth the increased risk? All genuine questions and thoughts, im not trying to have a pop at losses or shorters etc
OK so can keep your longs open but need to have 50% money sitting next to it instead of 20%, ie taking more money to achieve the gains? Out of interest, can you not sell and buy the amount back as shares, genuinely curious to what your options are. I can understand the frustration, halifax allowed me to buy oil on the bottom but forced the close well before I wanted didn't really understand at the time tbh, it made me sign waivers at the start which got me well nervous, i only do shares as feel its slightly less risky and not trust myself with my limited understanding of markets etc. I have always wondered what the catch with 212 was as my mate seems to not pay any charges when trading and I have, £5 plus stamp buy and £5 sell, makes dipping in and out with small chucks relatively difficult, ps I do mean small chucks £300-500
Really novice with cfd's, never used them, only use Halifax iweb isa, not that I recommend as a platform as I find its pretty poor but I'm not really having to 'trade' like that. Anyways, if you're being asked to close positions or more money, does that mean they feel a reset of the 70's is on the cards?
Sorry to pick on you didar but you have asked where's this share price going to be on quite a few shares and posts now that I've seen, no knows dude! Understand if your comfort blanket of allowing you to hold some of the more dodgy stocks out there, pmo, cpi and cine is asking strangers who will be bias as most won't be on the bbs without being invested in a stock, where something will be in a years time I feel you may need to dyor more, ps I'm in all three and hoping minium 150% if that helps?! All three are classed as my gambles and the money used is a small percentage of overall portfolio
Totally agree, call shorter all sorts prat, fool, idiot but if you use language like that most think you're no better than the little git you're talking about. Ps shorterguy is clearly a wind up merchant and is not actually invested or shorting imo filter him will be best but I understand the need to quash the nonsense that he seems to spread
Bigger the risk the bigger the reward, there has been plenty of opportunity to get in a lot safer shares at discounted rate this year I agree, and like most taken advantage of, despite mistiming a lot, I'm too up for the year and happy that those gains with off set the more risky stocks I've gamble 20% of my portfolio on, if gambles pull off instead of the 50-100% I expect from my bankers, 300-500% could be on the table
Pray for, exactly, and well put, indepth strikes me as just odd now, someone summed it up well by referring to the monty python knight stetch! Opposing views make bbs interesting and the whole point of them, not accepting things change when they do, well just seem a bit silly continuing the same line of argument imo
Dudes, expanded milky ways and Mars bars! Best information I've gained from the bbs so far! Total game changer!
This is why I can not understand indepth pov, totally agree funinvestor and I'm really not a optimistic person, always can see the negative, but this for next year or so should be reasonably steady, obviously trading updates are key once up and running to see if people do actually return to cinema like I expect, I personally feel pendent up demand and more film choice will achieve this even more so
Probably should have put imo, but if I'm wrong I will come on here and apologise to you personally!
Indepth, my patience has now run out with you. I've always treated your opinions with respect as you at least back them up with evidence, albeit old/out of date news or slightly irrelevant to the argument at the time, however you are now actively ignoring the actual facts that you can read for yourself! For the next year and a half this share is guaranteed to not be less than we are right now, despite still being closed, despite the huge debt and despite the dilution that will occur in a few years, if you dont understand this there is very little point trying to change your mind, and honestly I couldn't give a monkeys anymore, you are either lonely or don't truly understand what has been agreed by mooky and creditors, either way I'm no better than you if I continously bang on with my views and thoughts with no true knowledge of the future share price, as no one actually knows! But the smart money is a least 1-1.50, just think it's sad that even now your views are so ridged and still incredibly negative towards this share at this price, buy some, and sell at £1 as I can almost guarantee this will have hit that by June next year, then short the bugger as you clearly think by 2022 profits won't have returned and debt will be larger, I don't, and once it start clearly the debt mainly gather by expanding the business, well, its obviously to me but clearly not to you what that will mean to the share price and potential dividends. Rant over!
Sorry 1.7k for each penny!
Yeah, the shear panic I felt of having just a few thousand shares after THAT weekend was nuts, anybody losing £1k for every penny, hats off, as previously said, proper ballsy! You bloody laughing now though so seriously well done!
Ha, no one uses the capital and regional board much, I'm in on them, bit risky as retail sector but have assets as suggested multiple times their current value, unfortunately half my capital in them was before all this, and with consolidation in Jan 2020 and then corv19 has brought it down dramatically, definitely worth a punt as still plenty of recovery in the share price imo. Personally I topped up at 100p and then again 37p, but was mainly because original buy price after consolidation became over 400p, have checked if I felt they were in danger as intu obviously went earlier this year, I felt adequate risk vs reward but I deal in £100's not big boy money. Dyor but good shout imo
Ha, no one uses the capital and regional board much, I'm in on them, bit risky as retail sector but have assets as suggested multiple times their current value, unfortunately half my capital in them was before all this, and with consolidation in Jan 2020 and then corv19 has brought it down dramatically, definitely worth a punt as still plenty of recovery in the share price imo. Personally I topped up at 100p and then again 37p, but was mainly because original buy price after consolidation became over 400p, have checked if I felt they were in danger as intu obviously went earlier this year, I felt adequate risk vs reward but I deal in £100's not big boy money. Dyor but good shout imo
Good work investiod! After having a rather few proper special c*ck ups, I'm a very bad trader and too emotional and panic when seeing loses or break evens, I'm up 38% on 2020, can't complain but a lot of woulda, shoulda, coulda. My plan is mainly hold and hope for dividends come 2022 for a fair few of mine, still rather concern for the first few months of 2021 but reasonably please where I am atm.
Indepth surely you can see that from going from being bust, this is a going concern till June 2022, im not counting my chickens just yet but this has to be without doubt the best outcome any of us could have possibly expected, its ridiculously good news dude, so please just agree to disagree, we gambled and won, you stood to win nothing as you seemed to not have a position, either short or long, from me to all the others who have been very nervous over the last 6 weeks, woohoo!
It's a lot better than I was expecting tbh, soo glad it wasnt just spring 2021, but right to 2022, gives them a good chance to make it through this