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Ha, love it momoni, don't worry, there is a fair few of us small time investors for sure, having simular issues with not wanting to release money yet! Trying to explain to the wife why it's best to hold off buying the blinds till after the results can be a hard sell, especially if the towel your using instead keeps falling down! Unfortunately I know at 5.50 I'll still think, yeah the blinds are needed but if we hold till next year we can replace the window as well!
I'm having same thoughts, use Halifax iweb and it's not the most up to date interface, I'm actually looking at an app called stock events and really like all the features, but it's limited as a free app and the premium is £31 a year, im debating if its worth it, £3 a month seems OK for what it's offering tbh, so I second the question, what do others use and do others pay for the better product?
Sorry, but your being very negative on gsk so feel I have to point out, you lost money because you were gambling on gsk and not investing, stop betting and just buy the shares dude, soooo many other share that you can spread bet if that's your thing. This is one you should own and at least gain the div, not got a lot of sympathy if I'm honest, don't get me wrong, I'm grumpy that I topped up 50p too soon, well so far, but opening cdf on gsk is just being greedy?! Personally I see this as bottom but if not I'm not too worried, I'm not selling and therefore I don't lose my money, paper losses are just that and very unlikely you will ever buy shares and not see a loss at some point during holding them, well in my experience anyways, gla, lth for sure just have patience imo
Er, I might be being very naive and missing the point entirely, certainty no expert and only checking on here to what everyone else view on the recent results were. I own a small amount of gsk, I topped up on the dip, yes despite the results and forecast. My thinking is at 1300ish you're earning close 6% over next year, 5% year after, then the company splits, gives me shares in both and then few year later the two hopefully more streamlined businesses start returning my actual share value as well as the 3-4 years of 4%ish dividends, its a big, safe (as shares go) company these shares will never make me super rich, but will 100% return me a profit of some sort in the end (given time) of course ideally it goes up to 1420-30 and I slice and use my capital elsewhere. Surely investing is risk vs reward, I see little risk here so little reward. But 20 years of 4% compounded interest is 219%, so I can't see how I lose out, anyways that's my two pence worth, gla
Valid point suthy, and no not familiar with ceo so will have a Google. Bambiexo, exactly my thoughts, genuinely excited over their investment strategy, I invested solely on this alone and that it dipped to 0.07. I just wasn't sure on the immediate returns, ie this year. Im looking forward to seeing the progression of the different ventures, times are changing and I think this is a good find to get a bit of exposure to the new disruptive tech, cheers
Cheers richarddelion and bamibiexo, restored a little faith that some genuine investors reside here as well, velastic didn't give answer just suggested I bugger off! Knowing that startup, ipo business shares can take time to return any value back to the seed investors, if any sometimes, i just wondered if the target prices suggested, ie 1p in thread or even brokers 2.5p, were soley based on value of portfolio or that there was a guaranteed revenue stream I wasn't aware of for 2021. I like the recent investments, tempted to keep an eye on kanabo when listed, big believer in this as a medical game changer, Ms, epilepsy, arthritis so many illness that will benifit from this. I'm only here as I've invested in mode and saw vela mentioned- bit of research, didn't like the numbers particularly so small punt to start with, will consider doubling down if a dip from 0.07p occurs, but i see it as a speculative share rather than a safe share for sure atm
ps I'm pretty pessimistic in my views with all shares, prepare for the worst, hope for the best, so in general my posts often come accross as derampy I believe. I truly don't see the need or point of bbs being full of woohoo and boom! After reading velastic previous posts would suggest he's a cheerleader, who has posted over 200 times in 2 weeks and I really shouldnt have engaged. It just irrated me when I saw the monopoly money post, then realised the first two were probably directed at me as well! Anyways, thanks for your personal target bamibiexo, much closer to my fag packet maths target. Don't get me wrong, would bloody love 1p, just feel its not even close to being realistic, happy to be shown different if others have their own calculations to support their predictions
Halifax iweb are not great, or that up to date interface etc, but seem cheapish at £5 a trade plus stamp duty and I'm too lazy to change over to another provider! Can I take advantage of the tangent thread and ask do others use a separate app to monitor shares, watchlist etc, and if so has anyone used or pays for an app called stock events, it seems really good to me but limited as standard free app to 15 stocks, £31 per year for unrestricted use etc is that a good price? What do others use?
Yo velastic, curious responses by yourself, had assumed you were replying to someone else at first as didn't make a lot of sense to me. Help me out here, was my post that bad, was it rude or not valid? If people are allowed to say 1p target I believe I'm perfectly entitled to ask their reasons why, I was genuinely interested because my calculations don't come close to 1p target by end of this year, all I was asking was the maths behind the target. Don't worry I won't post again as clearly you're quite attached to vela and can't answer a simple question concerning the numbers without being aggressive and rude. Ps I'm a novice in the sense I aint playing with big boy money unlike some, and certainly don't claim to be a good trader, in fact I'm pretty bad at it tbh, too damn greedy is my down fall! Despite my poor trading style and decisions I do make a small return each year on my savings which is all i aim to do. Truly don't get keyboard warriors like yourself, protrolling the board, ramping up shares just to dump but guess we all have our own agendas to why we use the bbs, mine is research, reading different opinions and sometimes a bit of hand holding when I've gone in way too early! Gla
Bit of a ball ache but voted via iweb Halifax Web chat, been covered a lot but anyone else doing this you will need the Jan 26th rns info found at the top of rns, plus your Id number found under your account info. Oh and obviously vote yes to all. Add my 32.5k shares to the tally, gla!
Right, thanks for replies re Halifax from last three. Basically web chat the way to go I guess, least they should know what I'm on about now you lot have had to explain! Seems odd to me but maybe I've missed loads of these kinda things by not being the most proactive investor, anyways, will get on it tomorrow, cheers
Not deramping boys but why would you say at least 1p? Did a tiny punt at 0.07, no interest in trying to trade etc, just see what happens in a year kinda thing. 13 times mkcap, 117m, say p/e 20 would need them earning 5.85mil, or 0.49mil a month? Genuinely where do you see that kinda money coming from, or does the value of their portfolio command the price? Bit of novice so don't rip me a new one, as I say, I've gone small just because I like the alternative investment strategy, no belief yet that they will actually make money!
Mcleekcy, please tell me there's another way to vote on Halifax rather than that?! Or was that the last resort by youself, I was going to see if web chat would help if still nothing by end of week, surely if this is an important vote for staying listed, or at least without occurring expenses, I shouldn't have to chase up them up to cast it? Would go to explain why it never passed the threshold last time!
If you want to invest in bit coin quickly try mode, litterially 10 mins total process of setting up, verify and trading. Think majority are aware as its been cross ramped a lot but was impressed with it myself, brought shares in mode aswell, bit of a punt but their product does work at least, will it make money, we'll see!
Mode is very quick to get assess to bitcoin, takes 5 mins to registration, paying money in, buy bitcoin. New app, very simple, im invested hence the plug, plus it was very quick to set up, earn 5% on your holding done weekly, pretty good really, trading is flat 1% charge, find it on play store, good luck!
Have to admit I was surprised the scallywag results dropped this down by 33%, however I had been on the sidelines after toying with a 18- 20p buy in end of last year. The rise of this share has been nuts over the last year, well done all, I wasn't convinced at the time. Jumping on such big jumps in price always come with a bit of a risk however mkcap dropping below 1 bl with recent drop, this maybe a resistance price? Who knows, I'm now in at 24.75, Im half expecting to see 20p if results of next drills are same, a top up point for me, if continues to fall out of favor,roughly 16p and 12p next top ups for me. Don't think I know or even believe this will drop to these levels, why would I take a position if I did! But I think there is a possibility over next few years depending on progress. So just feel its prudent in an over inflated share (potential future value rather than actual value) to be prepared, if it's gained 1000% you have to be aware and prepared for 50% drops afterwards imo! Anyways a post that offers nothing apart from, panic sellers do what you want, there is others like me that want a bit of the action! Gla, ps some truly excellent posters here, been able to glean alot of useful info, links and numbers, good board apart from the ramdom posters attacks?! Thanks
Hey rs2002, still not a lot of action on this bb I see, obviously not alot of love for cal! Personally, I quite like this as a share, I get this is in retail and therefore consider to be a 'dying' industry but the numbers are still ok considering? I'm sure im missing something major, but having brought years ago 2010 ish I think, £300 worth it's returned 40% in div, nothing to get excited about, approx 4% per year, not compounded I may add, but sp especially after consolidating 10 to 1, has dropped to ridiculous levels imo. Ie I had avg at 43p, that then became 430 in Jan 2020, its now 85% down, so I've topped up at 100(200), 36(200) and now 60(300), overall avg 77pish. They are 'safe' till 2023, and have a balance sheet that gives asset value of over 5 times its current sp?Someone asked why the losses over last few years, I maybe misunderstanding the basics ie money in was less than money out, but actually looking at the property revaluations, 120 mil was disposed in assets value last year. Its got 2021 revenue in cash in the bank, surely this has to rerate once the country is back to 'normal'? I'm sure there will be more action on here once back over the £1 as the sheep start to flock, imagine the div returning at only a 1/4 of the last paid price, still 7p, ie 11% of todays sp, personally I see it a worthwhile punt, guess we will see in a year's time! Would say gla, but its more like good luck rs2002! Cheers, chris
Yeah its pretty simple, click dealing, then trade plan, select buy or sell, will bring up quote page then just click trade plan, I don't tend to use stop losses but the trade plans for a sell at certain price can be good. It also then gives you live prices when you look at all current trade plans setup. Hope that helps, have a play when markets closed as then you can't make any mistakes if you're worried about accidently selling! I've heard this theory about the lent shares and trade plans as well, does anyone actually know whether its as simple as that, ie setup trade plans and cause a short sqeeze?
Well done for the profit, kinda think just derisk and leave the profits in a least? Yes bit coin over the weekend can be very concerning, but in the same breath, imagine if the bull run does occur over a weekend, that's the gamble I guess. I can't be the only one that has gone in for a punt after stumbling on this, (47p first buy after a costly few days of dithering!) always risky buying a stock that's experienced such a huge increase in 2 months, put me off at first because if btc coin drops out, this could lose 90% of value so bit scary buying in at first! However I then did alot more research, I wasn't a believer nor did I understand block chain tech, I'm now aware of the game changer this technology is, not just btc but the bigger picture, and that for exposure to btc in an isa this is a truly great opportunity, I've seen the light as they say! If bitcoin booms from this point, ie the 30k range we could be on to a real winner, this is the first share I think I've actively averaged up, now 72p avg with 5x more shares than I started with. I'm not sure I agree with predictions of mkcp of 20 times earnings right this second, believe we need a whole year's worth of btc above the critical 20k mark, realise pe of 20 is the norm in tech in USA however I believe us stocks are way over inflated, imo a pe of say 5-10 is fair value at the stage of business, think this still gives 1.2-1.5 as a fair price. Traders and even later than me bandwagon jumpers, familiarise yourself with the numbers and btc, it's cycles, it's uses and what's happening this year in world's economy's, will make holding this a lot easier. Its a gamble, but so is every share, risk vs reward. Among all the ramping and deramping nonsense, which even I've noticed from reading bb from beginning of Jan has become absolutely ridiculous, God knows what the proper lth, ie pre Nov holders and posters feel like?! There is some really good, grounded and informative posters, for which considering how much boll*cks they have to read and reply too have provided an excellent source for myself and probably a lot of others who use these bbs properly. Gla
Tbf for about 10 mins I thought Eva had called it right! Then bitcoin shows us what It can do within half hr on a tweet, albeit a Elon musk tweet! Think you must be 100% committed to btc and the future world concept to never think of trading this as the swings linked to btc are pretty big on daily, weekly basis, and extremely tempting to try and gain 10-20%. I however with my limited research, think selling majority of your holding before Nov, Dec 2021 could prove to be very costly, this whole sector is entering very interesting times, the true believers I salute you, this share takes balls to hold! Gla