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Totally agree with Cummings comment, why I decided to admit defeat and take position here, and nervously just holding on to all mine shares atm. I'm long for everything but would hate to lose the gains from vacation news because because of no deal. Also thankyou trading places I've taken note!

Na he's in dude, just probably trying to get accross this is not a dead cert like some would like it to be, it's been a nervy week and I'm hopeful for next week but prepared to lose the lot, gla

Blimey, this is a very heated bb board, why aren't people allowed to think the optimism is over done and short, it's a valid view point, I've chosen to gamble that brexit, Oxford vaccination and end of lockdown will allow an overall up trend to continue for a little while at least but still very nervous of the overall picture in the world, genuinely could go either way, don't hate the player hate the game comes to mind, gla

Ps mo, one of you post I agree with, the well written thought out personal take on the bigger picture however the other ones, come on man, seriously?!

Ha, agree, I prefer to not say just in case the next day/week it goes wrong! I spent most of the week debating/ freaking out should I hold, sell, attempt to trade, I sat and did nothing, maybe a wise move maybe not, only time will tell. If mo had brought without research then maybe finding out about the sueing would have been a shock, most have known about the June news in June, amazing how much more new posters chip in when there's a lot of uncertainty in a stock

Yep, and my opinion is that you are here the wind people up, last time I'll engage with you, I actually like people having different views, would/is pointless having people all just hoping/wanting a rise bigging up the share. The facts of why people feel the way they do have been stated time and time again, and a debate is pointless if you're not prepared to accept the other sides opinion, that's actually an argument and I'm tried of arguing with shorter, Lse0086 and now yourself. Filtered

So could be even less, and yes no one knows, but I can safely say you my friend have an agenda, repeating the same stuff, do you have some safer options with simular possible gains so I can gamble on them rather than this, because this is my punt for 2020, thanks in advance

Rock8, shorts reduced by 2% on one day, you really think theres no foundation to the rumour, would you mind saying a few of your shares you hold atm to given me an idea of what you deem as safe investments please?

Well bloody said, rs2002, although no sympathy from me now as I with many others have had to justify our gamble to a select few who have endlessly banged on the same repeative sh*te

Ha ledsparky, I can't resist pointing out the irony of the post by the new poster! People must be trying to be funny, surely?!

I think it's the timing you suggest these things will happen, many other have read the same information and come to different conclusions, all guesswork by us pi atm, however dilution isn't first priority, make the company safe to trade till reopen, then consider raising cash in the summer of next year imo. Litterially no serious lth (2022 and beyond) is not expecting some sort of dilution to occur between now and 2022 or maybe I'm wrong, but even if the debts secured by future share bonds etc it's still a dilution. The thought is dilution will only occur above a £1 because of mookys holding imo, however when directly asking for examples of past cva meaning a share dilution at the same time to the business I got given, carpetright?! And the only other example you more negative posters have offered is intu, dyor but neither apply imo. If you can back up your argument with a better example and I'll be more than happy to look into it, however ive done my research, read the same information as you and come to my own conclusion, directed at rock8, not a dig but opinion shouldn't be portrayed as fact, hope you take a punt dude, but shorting at this level is dangerous, at 60-100p if reached short term maybe short as there's a very long road a head

Ah fair enough, wasn't aware of that, does explain some of the reactions he gets! I find he's quite balanced tbh but you can see and tell some people don't like oppossing views and won't tolerate any deramping or ramping, albeit unintentionally or otherwise, guess its because most (assuming) here are novices and we're a bit too emotional with our investing strategy. Obviously there are some big boys amongst us also! I believe shorterguy is literally here for the wind up and by Joe he got me drawn right in, honestly thought I could persuade him the tide was changing with a logical approach because felt genuinely concerned he had a short out at 24p, stupidly I engaged, so wrong was I that he could see different pov, indepth annoys a lot of people but least his view is taken from googled info, can be misleading but easily to dyor once he's pointed something out I may not have seen. Shorterguy offers the least I've ever seen a poster offer on these bbs, other wierdo don't seem to be quite as persistent, best thing I've done all week is filter him, oh and hold onto my cineworld shares!

Surprised investiod on your list, but the rest most I can see why you filtered, I've only done shorter guy, and Lse0086, rocks8 sails close to the wind for me, but actually think he is genuinely just sitting and waiting to see which way to bet, but as someone eluded to, sometimes you have to risk to gain the reward, was telling how different people perceived the same information, makes you question and reevaluate your own take which is why I bother to read the bbs, don't tend to check in on the safe ones, hence most of my focus has been on here the last week!

If we still open, vaccination progress well on the way I believe they will be making profit before debt payments, but actually slight loss overall, the share price £1-1.5, at which point a ri is possible to pay down some of the 'extra' debt, so potentially overall price by aug/sep 2021 70-100p but with a company that will survive. Dividends start 2024 at the best. This is a long recovery play for me to see precovid levels as the 2nd wave/lockdown has seriously reduced its ability to jump straight back to those levels. Pretty much as useful as the £5 plus predictions as I have absolutely no idea, damn excited for next week though!

Brexit deal 95% complete apparently according sky, as said nothing to do with this one as such but a general good day for markets on Monday imo, up or down I'm glad I've just held throughout the week, fingers crossed!

Yeah but fomo is big with this now and so is the fear factor, you have to be brave to trade the ups and downs now imo, honestly been soo nervous at times with this one when under water, then very greedy once I hit the green, litterially not brought below 35p ever, its been the buying and selling 50-65p that's allowed me to get to 30p average, all that effort and stress and if I was just patence could have just brought on the lows, gotta laugh else you cry I guess! But dipping in and out now could be very costly or profitable depending on your skills (luck!)

Yep, ok, agree to disagree now, you can clearly tell that this article suggests both sets of lenders almost bidding for the debt negotiation, better than just one forcing an offer. Any offer leaves us open and on the market and most importantly my shares will have a value, not sure what but it won't be 0p. Things can change and we all might be getting excited for no reason but you have to see this has reduced the risk to all us LTH massively, like I've gone from 60/40 to like 80/20 it's not going bust, hence the jubilant mood!

Of course dude, but the correct bet is now survival not bust

But that's the point of the cva it allows new negotiation, and can reduce overall debt, if two different lenders are making offers it mean our stake, shareholders is so much safer compared to just yesterday where it was suggested there was no offer available and a debt for equity was the only option, as stated cineworld does have assets like that, and then privatation, like your example of carpetright suggests would have been a real possibility, and that would be us wiped out. I've never been worried about cineworld as an business its the shareholders I've felt were in more trouble, this, no matter how you dress it up is potentially great news and totally against what you were thinking was the likely outcome, no one is right yet but can you honestly not see this as the salvation of the shareholder? Directed at indepth if not clear

Ha, to be fair I held after debating all day so probably his argument for drop on Monday probably right but actually I see big spike 60p ish now if any more news on the cva process, Oxford news and I realise nothing to do with cinema but talks of a deal of sorts could spark a general up for the markets, but definitely think 40p could be somewhere involved, ie simular to the last run. 50% swings a traders dream, and a holders nightmare!