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In depths views are valid regardless of the fact it's against the majority of us on this bb, a lot of companies could come unstuck in the months before a vaccination gets rolled out, my gamble is there's more value to keep cineworld going as a running concern but there's a fair few scenarios that could be bad for us share holders and still be running as a business in 2021. Comparisons to intu are misleading and not applicable to cineworld imo

Agreed on advice from bbs but for months the main posters have been quite balanced and open and now looking about a fair few have given up there shares, 65-75p, and because I've not checked in not sure whether it was trading and missed the rise or this 20:1 consolidation which is a lot more than I thought they would do

I've not kept in the loop with these to be honest, everything that had been happening was all positive, I jumped in when wolf did, im f1 fan and aware of his track record and connections, and thought he's no fool, I then took a kicking like most! Traded a bit, and regularly followed 3300, nevas, roxy and Co's posts of positivity as you do when your not sure you have done the right thing! My gut says that this ain't good for short-term, and not got enough knowledge or experience to know if its going to pay off longterm to just sit and wait with my tiny holding of 1300 shares!

Probably going to show my naivety here but I don't see this as a good thing, psychologically as a few have suggested it looks and seems worst for us pi despite it being exactly the same, but is there not a real possibility of the share price just dwelling down once they've consolidated. I've had shares do 10.1 before and it does seem have a negative effect on share price but I have limited experience of trading so might be wrong. Plus, not been on this for a week or so and most of the investors who been championing this share have cashed out? Was this due to consolidation or targets hit? I'm tempted to sell, and buy again when this is all done am I being silly?

Yep, sorry my bad! If he wasn't quite as rude with his comments, and was willing to accept he missed the bottom and just toned down the daily, we are all doomed speak. I actually think he offers a different view point, the world economics are on a knife edge and just because a way out is on its way doesn't mean there won't be another down turn, however I think like most, itv should continue to creep up over the rest of 2020 and that he will eventually regret his decision to not having a gamble on itv for under 90p.

As I see no green, shorter not hijack this yet, but think he would be having a field day, I didn't think anyone would soley gamble on this during a period where all shares were cheap, you guys are very brave, really hope it pays off. I went the other way to most of you it seems and probably spread myself way too thin being in like 30 plus shares, all small change compared to most on bbs. My longterm winners hope to be snr, bp, RR, barc, lloy, nwg, lgen, Tw, shell, dlar, omu, there's a fair few I've missed out etc and my timing with some purchases have been shocking. Gambles capita, gemd, cal, aml, Ted, swg, and cine. Cine is one of my largest holding but is under my gambles rather than guaranteed winner or dividend payer, so for me personally I'm definitely a believer in this share, but I'm nervous at my level of exposure of 5-10% of portfolio, im not trying to deramp, just think people do need to realise there is a risk with this, saying that, bigger the risk the bigger the reward! Gla

Gets my vote, only filtered him so far and there is a lot of green boxes! As you say, by all means have an opinion, even disagree with the masses and say it will fall again because this is not a done thing at all but it makes so little sense posting continously on one share the same bankruptcy theory, if he is short which I'm not too sure about, he will be getting desperate, but think it's more he's a bit bored and likes the wind up which started to work with me so had to disengage

Ha, fair enough, some of it comes accross a bit harsh tbh, no one needs to be reminded of losses. But I hear your argument with the optimistium that surrounds the vaccinations and the recovery not really seeing the bigger picture. Long winter ahead and im in the camp of retrace during Jan/Feb 2021 but my feel is that we come back to nearer these levels ie everyone is aware these are still (historically) low and fomo is occurring, driving most shares upwards on short term, next few weeks potentially, especially if you think Cummings leaving may infer some sort of deal (probably not a good one) occurring. I see markets react better to a deal than the unknown of no deal. Saying all that, if no deal occurs, vaccinations not till next spring then I believe you may just be right, everyone please don't hate me!.. and see your 50p as that may well spark the true crash feb/march 2021, 2008 crisis didn't hit true bottom till march 2009. So my gamble, holding for the moment because the upside is greater than the down, but no don't think we are out the woods yet at all but can't deny there's a lot more hope on the horizon than the first run in june. Plus technically I'm long on all my shares anyways, ie this time next year I will definitely be up from this point, its the greed of these mad swings that clouds my judgment at times!

Hey Tom, not sure if people have asked but you wrote... My strategy is to sit tight until ITV update on November 12th, which is also ex divi date for where my money is. Once the worst ITV news is out I will be tempted to buy... Did you, you would be up if you did. Also for someone who's earns a lot of money and is very important to the growth of this country etc you've not got a lot of class, some of your posts are ridiculously rude and petty, it's odd as your actual pov is valid and potentially is what's going to happen come jan/Feb 2021, nobody truely knows what the future holds, however markets based on sentiment in the most part so do us all a favour and join in on the party and chill out the end is nye talk we're all having a nice few weeks after a pretty rubbish few months

No filtered green here that's a surprise, probably the only thread shorterguy won't get involved in. 3890 shares @ roughly 31p now

Looks like it maybe today! Took its time to react, and while a lot sink today this is a little bonus to the day. I really like senior as a company, and thought it perhaps should have stayed higher after the first rise to 90p + early this year, but it has had its revenues servery affected and doesn't have the biggest profit margins so is understandable but as others have eluded to this is comfortably a 120-150p company that will delivers a good div (could be 2022 till we see it though imo)

Ha, so the sea of green I now see is just all your valuable input shorter, wow you must be really concerned for all of us, tbh I didn't know someone had been averaging down from £7 as presumably funinvestor has kindly repeated your response, I'll take your word for it, as obviously your a trustworthy and reliable source of accurate info, but curious to how he lost a mansion, the fat lady hasn't started singing yet? You only lose when you sell people, this is still very much a going concern albeit slightly risky, bit like having a short at 24p on a company that may well secure their future within 2 weeks just imagine the hysteria, gotta be in it to win it!

Name one person who has all their money in this one share you oddly frustrating troll, filtered, my first one!

Ha, no, definitely you dude, I'm actually slightly up on today overall, like I say, being diverse is a very good way of not feeling the affects of more volitile shares, im in all over the place, oil, housing, banks, insurance, aviation, automotive, mining, leasure and retail I'm not completely focused on cineworld like you? This is my gamble, rather than 50-100% I hope from others in the next few years, plus hopefully some div with some. This could be 300-500%, or could be nothing, but that's the gamble

We can't say it's definitely not going bankrupt, bigger companies have in the past, we can't say they will definitely get the waivers, and definitely can't say they won't do a ri dilutions. However what would you do if you were the lenders and the owner. Probably secure a high interest loan to bridge the gap, cut costs and focus on a solution in the future to make sure both of you make money. Which is what's happening? I'm 70/30 confident that come April 2021 I won't be worried about these, till then it is twitchy bum time, imo

No shorter it's the comparison of apples to oranges that bugs people, and that derampers do actually influence people to crystallising losses, just check my first ever post in 10 years, RR sold 1.14! Soley because I allowed all the 'it will go to the ri price' nonsense influence me. Biggest lost I've ever traded and with hindsight big Big mistake. There's a lot of novices, me included that are too emotional to be good at trading and should focus on longer plays and companies that pay dividends not predicting the illogical rises and falls of certain shares, these people do look to bbs for reassurance, news being highlighted both positive and negative and I now see why others jump on any nonsense because people do make crazy decisions when dealing with money, greed, and people like you seem to take some sort of wierd kick out of the fact someone has lost money. As so many say, you only lose the money when you sell, don't panic sell at 2020 levels there are very few stocks that you won't recoup your money on, ok its not nice when a share hits 0p, but that's why very few investers ever invest in just a few stocks, but have diversity, and no one has remortgage and put all their money here, as I simply don't believe if you have that kind of money you would, ie more than the two brain cells you appear to have, sorry rant over, plus think I'm going to have to start filtering, since breaking my duck with posting, majority are me just getting grumpy with shorter!

Sorry easy ride made it sound like I knew they would go, I didn't at all, I too punted at 3.5p then did more research (brought because of how much they dropped not that I believed in the company, totally the opposite to what you're meant to!) and then gladly took 10% as I proper shat myself up with their finances, it then went to 10p ish and was proper kicking myself but was quite aware they were really struggling before Jan 2020, it's because it's the only share I'm aware that's gone during this that I found the comparison by a first time poster amusing/scare mongering which I think crumpet eluded to

Well said crumpet, be fair he looked very hard for a company that's gone, one of the only ones I'm aware of, sure there's probably been others! Also if he had done research he wouldnt have held, they owned lakeside (home of bdo darts) which had given profit warnings before the completion moved to o2 arena 2019/2020 which was a disaster for all concerned! Saying that I've taken a small punt on capital reg which is in same sector and probably just as risky!

Agreed with your comments shorter however during these unprecedented times have people not been given mortgage holidays etc as its better long term for the banks ie the lenders, im still thinking the same applies here, lenders are much better off getting the interest over next decade rather than force an eviction and only recoup half money owed? Plus is the debt not from expanding the business and not from being unprofitable? Could be wrong but my gamble, my money

Tom, there is logic to your argument for sure, actually think anyone invested anywhere has the same thoughts/fears that this rally is too soon and got a long way to go till normality actually resumes, but you have to accept that's not how most shares seem to work, its all about sentiment and that's changed massively last week. I've been debating all weekend what next week will bring. I feel I might just wait it out and see, I'm long on all my shares anyways so probably bias and just feel there's more to go with this run for all shares, reasons for this are, Oxford vaccination is big news for uk, brexit deal progress possible on thurs this week, Cummings left for a reason imo, and run up to Xmas traditionally adds gains. Retrace in Jan, feb is my gut feeling but honestly it's all gambling really and to pretend anything is a certainty is simply nonsense during these times