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They say that no news is good news so all the following yesterday does not bode well for Brasil:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-agriculture-bankruptcy-analysi/brazil-farmer-defaults-burn-soy-traders-betting-on-barter-idUSKCN1SR284

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/business/2019/05/study-says-brazils-economy-is-on-brink-of-a-depression.shtml

http://www.americasquarterly.org/content/can-vp-mourao-fix-brazil-china-ties

HMI answer was more informative than yours

They advised that they are not yet in a position to supply in sacks although they intend to in the future

For the average farmer sacked material or big bags is the most practical method for application

Ask yourself how does one apply a tipper load of dust over an area of 100 acres without a lot of manual labour and wastage to shovel it into the spreader.

The fact that one of the main selling points is that it is organic and probably the market that it is most suited to means that smaller quantities are required.

I had wrongly assumed that Agrecerrado or Geociclo would bag up as they do with their own products

Agrocerrado also market Yara products which you can find on the website and available in big bags and 50 kg sacks

Other producers from all over Brazil have agents and suppliers in Parana

you missed the point

I asked for a quote for 8.5 tonnes in 50 kg sacks as is common for fertilizers

This is Brazil.....H&S has not gone mad here yet.......HMI were quite happy for me to collect big bags from site

Sure i will just pop down to the corner B&Q....do you not realise the size of this country

John you really are a lot thicker than i thought.

The tonne is just granular dust loaded into a tipper

The bag is a tonne of the granular dust put into a bag

My need does not warrant a full truck load

And to uplift from their site is prohibitive cost wise comparing with the competition

Now do you understand ........by your past comments i very much doubt it

I do own stock bought at 9.65

we are currently in communication with Drumon Pinheiro regarding the product

We have an FOB price of R$200 per tonne for bulk or R$215 for big bag.

Unfortunately they cannot deliver to our location

Neither of the above is practical although Drumon indicated that supply in sacks is being looked at for the future

The good news is they at least replied this time

So John go back to your arm chair and think of something positive and factual to say

Regards from ground zero

www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/brazil-economy-stocks-currency-president-jair-bolsonaro-11545014

namnam can you not read
unfortunately i am an investor which i announced here
I bought in at 9.65 thinking it could not possibly go lower
What a mistake and its all down to the BOD

Ahead of a meeting in Sao Paulo on 3rd April Andrea Illy, Chairman of the Italian Illy Group said

"There is also the factor of smaller use of crop care products by farmers due to the lower coffee prices"

So i guess after the field day we will be receiving notification of all the sales made is that correct ?

Heyhoe says they have appointed a sales manager and sales team of 6

That would help if interested parties knew how to contact them. There are no contact details on HMI website nor on the KPfertil site

There is no info on how to order the product

BUT

There is plenty of info on how to invest in the company. I guess the BOD feel they have their priorities correct

the BOD are the biggest derampers here with their lack of transparency

Correction
I will be out if it gets back to 10p

I first came across KP fertilizer when searching for organic fertilizers in Brazil.This led me to HMI shares which I started following.At this time the shares weeabout 16p and there was considerable media coverage suggesting the shares would fly
.Sure enough they climbed to 23p overnight.
So with 2 objectives I looked closer.Was this a viable product for me to use and if the hype was anything to go by it could be a good investment worth investigating further to check the claims.We contacted Agrocerrado ,at that time the sole agent.They provided all the info and analysis requested but we're unsble to deliver to our location.In any event my agronomist concluded that there were better and more economical products available .This also dampered my enthusiasm for the share although I did believe there was some scope if sales could be generated in their area.The lack of sales information discouraged me but I set a Target price of 10p a value which I felt could be justified by the underlying fundementals.
Regrettably I bought in at 9.65.
Since that time there as been no good news and the Geociclo debacle proves to me that the BOD are not adept at doing due diligence.I will be out if it gets back or near 20 but I am not holding my breath.As I stated in an earlier post I bought and applied my fertilizer needs elsewhere

John, my manager contacted Agrocerrado on my request and as previously reported they were very efficient and helpful in their response providing all information requested
They advised that they could not deliver to our area
We also solicited a quote from HMI and Geociclo and are still awaiting a response some 4 months on.
The subject of quantity was not even an issue because according to our agronomist we could purchase a superior and cheaper product from a supplier that is approx 20km down the road

there is no precise answer to your question
Brazil is a massive country with many climatic zones it is the size of the USA if you lop off Alaska however HMI and their agents are not distributing outside the immediate area. They would not deliver to us in Parana state.
In their location it is fairly common to plant Soya in Aug and when harvested plant corn(maize)
In general farmers choose to buy or not fertilizer in line with market prices of the product.
It is also quite common to just slash and burn virgin land as opposed to using fertilizer to rejuvenate existing land

At the moment most prices for crops,particularly coffee are very depressed

As you say Brazil is not Africa and it should be a little more efficient if it were not for the systemic corruption which tends to slow things down (like certification) until someone tops up their pension fund .

I am not surmising one little bit
I was in contact with HMI distributors
My agronomist appraised the various options and on my insistance looked primarily at organic products
I recently bought and applied fertilizer in Brasil
This is not nonsense it is fact
I did not buy KPfertil although unfortunately finally bought HMI stock at 9.65 believing that was realistic value after watching for 18 months.
If ,and its a big if, it returns to that level i am out

Its amazing that most of you dont listen
Buying of fertilizer for most crops for this season has already been completed
We purchased our modest needs about 3 weeks ago and it is already in the ground
the big consumers would have completed purchases back in March.

We had good response from Agricerrado but the product was not considered kg by kg economical by our agronomist compared with other products on the market

Earlier in the year we had zero response from Geociclo, which with hindsight is understandable or from HMI

Surprised, do you have any experience whatsoever of doing business in Brazil and the complexities of such ???