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Let me be clear - I've said before, and I meant it then just as I do now, that if I'm wrong and we get anywhere near a decent result, I will happily type out an apology on my knees. Until then, your hopes - like these shares - are worthless. It's important to remember that because some people will have lost thousands upon thousands because of this outcome and they'll need to start rebuilding their lives rather than be given false hope.

Ivory - I've logged back in just to upvote your post. How much longer are some of you going to keep swimming in complete delusion? "This will go to £1-2 a share!" "Noor is the weak link!" "Happy Christmas everyone!" "Oh wait, we lost but.. ROI are corrupt!" "We've read the award, that'll save us!" "Autopen autopen autopen.." "An annulment is coming soon and then we'll get all our money back!" "Nice one maestro, I bet the tribunal - or the company whose lives almost literally depend on this going our way - haven't considered what you've found themselves!" Over and over and over with unfounded optimism. You believe all this because you want to, not because it's realistic. W A K E U P ! If these international corporations can't get a good outcome for us, then some Nancy Drew amateur detective work on a forum almost certainly doesn't have a hope in hell. Your money is guaranteed but gone. So is mine. Accept it. It's highly irresponsible to get other peoples' hopes up when they could be moving on.

So basically you don't want to see anything that doesn't sync up with what you want to believe? It's almost like that's exactly what I've just been saying you're doing, isn't it? (Also, to answer your question: Yes. Exactly that. Yours and others too).

@jamesss I'm going to again raise the prospect of confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is where, instead of trying to determine the true position of a thing, you automatically dismiss any research which doesn't fit the view you want or already hold, and welcome without question anything that does. I've said before that I'll type out an apology literally while on my knees if I'm wrong about this. But it is very rare to see anything on this forum which suggests shares in CHL are a lost cause. Yet there is overwhelming evidence (look at how much your shares are worth right now, for one!) that a lost cause is EXACTLY what it is. And every time you or someone else gets your hopes up, the gap between you getting your money back and the reality of the situation gets wider and wider and wider.

@"rebel" Aside from being utterly unable to answer any direct points or questions that are raised to and being reduced to doing nothing more than calling people names.. is the ability to read simple sentences escaping you now? (Along with a sense of irony at what you've just accused me of) xD

@maestro1 I think they're going for whatever they can. They're pretty much f***ed with regards to anything else, aren't they? And they did happily pursure the main case despite all the questionable judgement that has now come to light since all those chasing £s (including myself) have found out that no, actually, you can't just selectively read what you want to and assume that there's going to be gold at the end of this here rainbow.

@maestro1 You are clearly finding some interesting articles here and I have no issue with those in themselves. It's the false hope they generate which is so happily accepted by others who are drooling at the mouth for some kind of miracle to be pulled out of the hat which I object to. I'm not necessarily saying that's being created deblierately by you, either. Some will just read into it whatever they will regardless of what you say now. (See earlier post about Confirmation Bias, which our resident "rebel" clearly hasn't grasped yet).

"rebel," you need to calm down. Despite the fact that I never addressed you personally when I began posting here, you nevertheless took it very personally indeed. Whatever your reasons for that, you also seem to be somewhat obsessed with Mrs. Blitzed. I can assure you that she is giving me no indication that she's not entertained! Could you perhaps be projecting some inadequacies on me, given that we have of course not me? Perhaps it's not just the share price you're having issues keeping up? :D Your belief that you don't need to answer any questions is, again, on par with Mr. Noor (except his side won!). Now, please be aware that, as I've been pointing out to you for some time now, there is only one piece of evidence I need (for this argument, at least): The performance of Churchill's share price. How much are yours worth? How much did so many people expect them to be worth by now? What was it - £1? £2? More? And how much of that was buoyed by the endless false hope on these forums? False hope that likely continues to be peddled, and which some are happy to believe because fantasy is so much nicer in the short term than the reality, isn't it? We've all lost money. It's almost certainly going to stay that way. Accept that. Nothing you read on here will change it. Come back to the rest of us and live in the real world.

For the fifth time "rebel," answer the questions I've put to you. In not doing so, there's just an increasing number of pages with evidence against you. Why are you unable to answer them? Why are you dodging them? Is it because it'll burst your little bubble of the ICSID waving their wands and making your shares worth a damn? And yet so much criticism of Mr. Noor for not showing up when it counts - what utter hypocrisy :D

100% this. Some of you are looking for hope and flecks of positivity from unqualified strangers on an internet forum. Buying them a pint? You're kidding, right? This is painful to watch. The case is completely and utterly out of our hands, theirs included. They can dig up all the links and videos and read every sentence ever committed to ink or pixel - the decision has been made. If it's to be undone, it won't be because of what happens on the LSE forums. And if it isn't to be undone - which any realist can see is highly likely, or at least in a way that will get you your money back - then you'll have had your hopes built up and dashed precisely because of them. Buy them a pint? Sure, go ahead. Just make sure they let you cry into it first so you get your money's worth. *facepalm*

No, you don't have to be a qualified lawyer to read - but you don't seem to understand that being able to read doesn't qualify you *in the slightest* as an expert on the matter or prove your understanding. My first question, which you have repeatedly (at least four times now) refused to answer, proves that. And now there are two more. Why are you not answering them rebel?

All gone quiet I see.. maybe I can ask a different one, if that'd help you: How many tribunals have you ever sat on? Or try this one instead: Are you a qualified lawyer?

Hi "rebel". When are you going to answer the question I've posed to you at least three times now? Do you want me to dig it out for you? If you've read the award, a sentence or two shouldn't be too tricky for you. Why do you suddenly not have any answers?

Here's some free knowledge and everyone's topic of the day to research: "Confirmation bias."

I'm being ironic, and wishing I could turn back the clock to that December night when I was tempted to sell for the 100% profit in lieu of the positive result that may never come. In reality, I'm fully aware the shares are in suspension. However - Poe's Law.

Rebel, you're right for once - it's true, no matter how many times I say the same thing over and over, you just don't seem able to get it. I've even asked you the exact same question two or three times alone - and still, no answer! So yes, the education system really has failed you. My condolences. (Although maybe I could break the question down into simpler words for you?)

As you would probably be able to guess, I thoroughly disagree with you. Hope in a near-hopeless situation only leads to disappointment. You are better off - although the usual characters will disagree - moving on, accepting that this has been a disaster and if anything good ever *does* come from it then it will be a nice surprise. All the hope in the world and interpretation from people on this board didn't do a damn thing when it came to the result late last year. They're still the only two things I'm aware of that are keeping this thing grinding onwards. That sounds like another poor investment to me.

What I guarantee I haven't read is your answer to my question yet. Where is it?

Now now, answering a question with a question just isn't considered cricket: Answer my question first and then I'll answer yours: "You are completely and utterly missing my point: You've read the award, you've followed the case, you've performed and raindance on a random Tuesday and thrown the runes and hoped and prayed.. ..what's your total profit on a CHL investment so far?"

I can assure you that you are incorrect, but your paranoia is real. Speaking for myself alone of course, my interest has been in both the long and the short because I, like everyone else here presumably, have invested sums in this stock. But now it's time to finally wake up and smell the coffee - just like I said at the beginning.