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@TLWilliams

You're missing my point. The share price reached almost 55p back in April 2019. Why not speculate for that instead? Or even higher prices from the past?

Yes, the price reached 30p when the patent infringement was announced. Is another patent infringement about to be announced? If not, the price will go where it will, and if we had perfect knowledge of that in advance we'd all be quids in.

Since we're not, it IS blind hope as to where it'll go and I'll say again it's unhealthy.

Speculation like "20p/30p" unless it's founded on anything but hope is really unhealthy.

Seen it plenty of times before, will no doubt see it many times again.

@Paul-PlanetEarth

Not a problem, only a brief debate and good to see the share price rising. Bring it on.

@thomasbrowne

Your argument is a combination of negativity bias and flawed data.. there weren't 8 billion people on the planet in Neanderthal times. There are now. You're looking at things in isolation. I'm not saying that the Syrian plight isn't horrific but that doesn't change the original point - in the long view of history, this *is* the safest time to be alive. The facts (ahem) trump your perception.

@troublesome

Take anything out of context and you'll end up with whatever you want. However, add the context where someone on another stock was guaranteeing people a win on a company that ended up going into administration with all stock holders (including me) losing everything on it.. and I'll stand by every word. They proved to be accurate.

Also, troublesome, your logical fallacy for the day is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

If nothing else, that convinces me that you definitely didn't look at slides #7 and #16 of the second link.

Did you look at either of the links at all?

You - and I - are not physically or mentally capable of understanding the relative position of humanity from immediately around you and what you see on TV. You're just not. Which is why looking at objective data is so important. If you want to tell me lots of people died in war X then you can, and I'll agree with you, but that still doesn't stop us being at the safest point in human history when you look at it objectively.

(Unless you happen to be betting on a quantum dot company just before taking up your rifle or about to be bonked on the head with a sabre toothed tiger bone?)

I'm going to suggest you look up two things:

1) The term "negativity bias."
2) The actual data to counter the perception you're getting from #1:

https://slides.ourworldindata.org/war-and-violence/#/title-slide

And yet in the long view of time we live in the safest time for humanity in history, with murder rates and deaths from war falling all the time, moving us further and further away from the tribalist tendencies of when we used to live in caves. I like to think of things like this giving it a little extra nudge.

;)

Very happy to debate it, but appreciate this isn't the place for it and no offence intended to either yourself or troublesome.

Your quote and links are about what other people think of you. However, what's relevant here isn't about what other people are *thinking* of you, it's about how you're treating *them*.

And I'd hope you're more decent than needing to pull in quotes and links to justify that. The bigger thing to do might have been to stop, *reflect* on the response you've been given and grow your position.

Try telling me the world is a better place because of people saying whatever they want on the internet over the past few decades (and reading too - for instance, who's Teddy Lim and why would you trust him?). You end up in a situation where people say things they wouldn't say to someone they didn't know in real life, increasingly don't consider their actions and ultimately double down to justify their own behaviours (see: confirmation bias).

Please note: 1) I'm not saying this to attack you 2) I, like you, hope that we get a great result from Nanoco in the end :)

"Things that come from China don't usually last very long so let's hope that's the case with the virus."

I'm not sure if you're being genuine or joking but could you please remember that you are posting on the internet, to everyone, and that your comments may be received as ignorant at best or offensive at worst?

Some light reading in the meantime:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions

You'll note this also includes.. banknotes, which hopefully last for you a while as much as they have in China.

(No offence intended, just trying to level out how everyone shares information around these here parts)

To save everyone the trouble of opening the link, let's get straight to the important part:

"There is little prospect of anything other than a very small (if any) return to creditors so at the present time we
would advise shareholders that they should not expect any return on their investment."

Looks like I aimed too high with a quid!

I received a letter in the past few weeks saying that the company is going into administration and I'll be notified of any proceeds based on my holdings.

I would be shocked if that yields anything over a quid, sadly. Condolences to all.

To quote a fellow poster.. good luck, all!

See previous middle paragraph, TR.

If it's a choice between p*ssing off some regulars but highlighting to newbies/lurkers that the information on here is often made up, I'll go with that every time. It's peoples time, hopes and money involved here and so I've no shame in that whatsoever.

(And ironically no, despite your claim below, whatever you've read elsewhere isn't being conducted by me, at least).

Thumbs up from me Rodney and I apologise to all those who find it tedious and completely appreciate why.

You'll only ever (whether appreciated or not) find me popping up the moment that mikemike - or any indeed other poster - makes up complete sh*te in order to look like they have insight that they can't possibly have, raises false hopes amongst fellow investors, ramps the share price and/or makes impossible guarantees.

That, or we have one other option: The moment that mikemike posts his proof that I've sold my shares, I'll delete my account and never appear again.

mikemike:

You guaranteed a win, in your own words. Now you're saying you've never guaranteed anything? All of this is there for everyone to see below. I was right to warn people against you saying this at the time and these dangerous lies are coming back to bite you. Please stop misleading everyone on this board. You are not qualified to give advice - including your guaranteed "fantastic outcome" for us all.

In the meantime, you're now claiming I've sold my holdings. Please share this proof with everyone, today. I've asked you once already. Assuming you are unable to do this, I will repeat again that you make claims on this board to ramp the price and mislead everyone (some desperately) hoping for that guaranteed win you promised.

Discrediting anything that gets posted on a bulletin board still doesn't mean it's right for you to make up whatever you like. You know people will read it and you are responsible for that. You can choose to come clean and leave only facts to be posted here or keep it going and mislead.

mikemike - doctored sheets? Buys and sells? Last trade? You are a liar and a fantasist. You continue to make all these claims, in public, to your fellow LSE posters and they'll keep coming back to haunt you - so please, back them up. I've proven I'm a stock holder. I'll allow you to prove I'm not.Otherwise, this is yet another falsehood to convince people you know what you're talking about. You don't. You've also completely ignored the facts, produced by your own very hand, of claiming this will be a "fantastic outcome" and guaranteed win for everyone! Funny that isn't it?Some people on here are desperate for advice and hopeful words and you continue to set yourself up as a provider of it. Shameful. This is other people's money and you have no right to mislead them. There's only one sentence in your reply to Fregatr which is literally true:"Mid March will tell us what is happening"..which is what EVERYONE already knows (indeed, I'd said it myself yesterday! How flattering).I feel so very, very sorry for you if it's not just your money that you've invested but so much of your self esteem that you need to slander strangers on the internet for recognition as a snake oil stock peddler.Seriously though - waiting for the proof of these sells! This should be a good one. Sit down comfortably, everyone!

Of course, and the thing to remember is that we don't know what will happen and anyone who tells you otherwise is a (proven, on multiple occasions) liar. Beware those making guarantees but who are nevertheless peddling the usual heady mix of speculation and snake oil.

Unless of course, you ask if they're happy for you to invest their money in your place.. then watch them suddenly clam up ;)

Anyone with a basic grasp of English can see that:

"This is going to be a fantastic outcome." - Your words, on here, 5th July 2018

..very much DOES mean a guaranteed win for all CHL shareholders. Unless you don't understand what you wrote yourself? And for anyone, in any doubt whatsoever, as to the credibility of "mikemike" (maybe you named yourself twice to help your poor memory?):

"You are not invested here" - Your words, on here, 12th February 2019

..and here's where I proved you wrong the first time:

https://i.imgur.com/qRthHID.jpg - 2nd July 2018

..as well as the original link itself, as pictured, still from that very day:

https://i.imgur.com/BkdgRQx.jpg

Everyone is welcome to look it up, cross reference it, and prove for themselves that mikemike is a known ramper, a proven fantasist, and who will tell anyone hopeful enough to listen (including himself) about the fantastic outcomes of which he has NO idea.

This has, and will be until the day the decision drops, a complete unknown and we are at the mercy of arbitration. No amount of speculation, idealism, WW-bunker mentality, name calling, lying, accusing people of not being shareholders, or deny the facts in front of them will change that.

mikemike is now - as shown above - a proven liar on these boards and you'll be leading yourself down a rabbit hole of lies and denials to engage him. Don't let him twist your feelings on your hard-earned investments.

Well I thought that was going to take longer, but there it is, straight away back in July:

https://imgur.com/a/rlA4Gpa

Your own words mikemike. Guaranteeing a "fantastic outcome" and presuming to know what international arbitration boards are thinking when your qualifications are.. what, again? Oh yeah. You know how to use a keyboard.

You owe everyone on here an apology for letting them think you know what you're talking about.

I'll even let you claiming I'm not a shareholder slide for a second time for it if you like.