Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
- Why are you accusing me of wanting the last word having just asked me a question?
- Why would you deny that I've got it right when all I've said is that we don't know what will happen - unless you do?
- How does exposing your reporting of positive news only qualify as deramping?
- Why would I deramp a share I've proven to own (despite your "giveaway" assessment)?
Not that you've acknowledged already having been proven wrong on that last one, of course ;)
Now, again - please stop ramping and we can clear this forum out for *genuine news* on the share only, to everyone's pleasure and benefit I'm sure.
Splitting hairs, OF. If you post your "observations" on a forum, you should absolutely expect reactions to them as well. That's why the link below each post says "Reply" and not "Fawn Over Because You Posted Good News".
Between yourself and MM, I thought you might be the one able to consider the other side of the equation if someone outside of our discussion were to show it to you. Now please, for everyone's benefit - stop ramping.
Supposed investor OF? Bzzzt! Ouch, bad luck guys:
https://i.imgur.com/BkdgRQx.jpg
And hilariously MM, you commend me for pointing out that we have no idea which way it'll go but then only go on to just talk about a positive outcome. What you'll note is that *nowhere* have I ever said we will lose this case. Ever. And yet you both violently knee-jerk against anyone who dares to talk about anything other than a win because it's the only thing you want to believe.
Remember guys - just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean the ROI and ICSID aren't out to get you.
Quite clearly untrue, based on unbiased, irrefutable historical fact - the share price *is* in the dirt, Churchill as a company is *not* in a strong position here and you only posting buys does not change that. Optimism or pessimism has nothing to do with this (and I'm actually usually a very positive person, just FYI).
My saying so is simply to disprove the distorted situation you and several others are trying to put forward. As I've said before, repeatedly, we have no way of knowing which way it'll go, good or bad. But past performance at least does not suggest the likelihood of the stunning victory that only looking at positives will deluding yourself into believing.
It's irresponsible. Some people may be in desperate financial situations and invest further in this company based on this misleading representation. I know that's possible because while I'm financially secure, I put more money in several years ago before I got wise to what was really happening on these boards.
So stop giving yourself and other people false hope, and just take it as it comes - unless you have some grounded evidence that these buys you're posting are for good reason.
"ROI must be wondering just how bad things can go."
You've literally just made this up because you want a good result. One of the requests were rejected and you decide that's "short shrift".
In reality it's nothing to do with optimism or pessimism. You seem to think that being presented with the facts hampers our chances for getting a good result. It literally makes no difference whatsoever and yet you insult anyone who challenges that.
The simple truth is that the only thing worth interpreting at this stage aside from *what actually happens* at the next hearing is what's happened so far.. and anyone honest with themselves will acknowledge it's been a disaster.
So count all the buys you like but our share price is still in the dirt. There's a slim chance that'll be changed at the next hearing and while we will ALL be happy if it does.. past performance says otherwise.
Thanks for the link, much appreciated. And yes you were right on the share price - I'd read the latest bid on the NEX page. I stand corrected. Having read through the page, it sounds like there's a chance however there's one thing to bear in mind. This is written by the party which feels it's been wronged. They're challenging the ruling because it's all finished if they don't. It is *going* to sound like there's a chance. So I would, respectfully, amend your assessment to: "The tribunal appear to have broken their own rules, therefore an annulment would seem highly possible.. according to Churchill's take on the situation." We need to remember, even if it comes off for us, that Churchill are the ones on the backfoot here, even if just for now. So don't get your hopes up just yet - because we all know the history here.
I don't have a take on the latest news either way - I tried to find the link and was unsuccessful, so if you wouldn't mind sharing that'd be great. However, there have been many serious cases of either disappointment and/or confirmation bias on outcomes on this share in the past so that - as usual - is what I'd like to help couch everyone against. I notice the sp has dipped to 2 today from 2.2 as well, so it doesn't look like the markets share that confidence just yet (sadly.. it's my money in there too, after all).
Yep, I did. "Edging up steadily" implies a trend. And merely a week after, that trend didn't work out. That's all I was saying and it's hard to argue with. Getting your hopes up won't push up the share price. Pure and simple.
"SP edging up steadily." Always beware only seeing what you want to see. Currently 2.2 after 2 all week. aka peanuts. There's no harm in accepting this has been a disaster to date, even with the possibility it might yet still come yet.
"because I choose not to belly slither with a whimper" Completely missing the point as usual, and failing to realise that NOTHING you do will affect this shareprice, whether your misguided "tally ho and over the top of the trenches!" attitude or a realistic one that this share has largely been a disaster. Still, I suppose getting aggressive and calling people names helps ease the pain of accepting all the money you've lost eh? That's what really counts for nothing. Your holdings. Just like I've been saying all along. :)
Or perhaps the gods will look as favourably as they have at virtually every key decision. Are these shares at their lowest ever? Either way, maybe the message I've been putting forward will finally get through - don't get your hopes up. Save yourself some disappointment, and instead have a nice surprise if anything does actually come out of all this. Happy Christmas all.
Does anyone know of an Android app with a widget that can track NEX share prices? Unfortunately, the one I used to use - along with any other news one I've tried - don't seem to recognise NEX markets. It would obviously be nice to know when this stock goes through the roof so I can order those two new Ferraris I've had my eye on.