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Curious form of success when your losing hundreds of soldiers a day and the hardware inventory is being blown up daily and not replenished.

Have no idea about uniforms.

can you hear yourself razz... lol

You're trying to make excuses for the defeat, lol

Europe cut out the US a long time ago. The US has now influence over Europe, it is one of the things Europe is so proud of. Europe has been looking for ways to ditch NATO for a long time and create a European army. Just because certain political and economic philosophies align, doesn't mean it is all lovey dovey. There are some serious rifts between the US and Europe, the UK has played its hand well over the years keeping close to America and Europe has gotten very angry with the UK for that at various times.

Twist it as you wish, I was absolutely clear with my reference and you seem to be forgetting the previous president was a Russian lackey rather than a western one and Zelensky is routinely castigated by Russia accused of an overthrow of Porno . But then again, the whole excuse for invasion is based an piles and piles of lies and rewritten history to suite.

And it is all directly 100% relevant.

WHY did the sp drop 90%?

WHY did the board quickly propose splitting the company and continue to do so?

WHY is the sp not jumping back up?

WHY is Russia failing so badly in what should have been a rather simple military exercise (given they already had forces in the regions they wanted to in the east)?

I think if you look again I was referring to the Zelensky election and made no mention of any previous elections and the coverage of him which was not very flattering and is completely at odds with the narrative that Zelensky was put in office by the west. As for 2014, I remember Top Gear did a trip through Crimea and remarked what a lovely place it was and Russia invaded soon after and then they or the militia they were arming shot down a civilian airliner to 'mark their territory' referring to the airspace over Crimea to become a no fly zone for the west and Europe especially.

As for Porno-shenko, sweet little innocent that he is, lets us consider this;
"The news that the government of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has initiated legal procedures accusing former President Petro Poroshenko of high treason could not have come at a worst moment. On Dec. 20, the Ukrainian State Bureau of Investigation, the equivalent of the FBI, announced that Poroshenko was under serious suspicion for having committed “state treason” for having “supported the activity of terrorist organizations.”

His administration is alleged to have assisted the Russian-backed and commanded separatists in Eastern Ukrainian regions controlled by Russia of selling the government coal even as Ukrainian troops were being killed. The government accusation is that $54 million worth of coal was illegally sold in 2014 to 2015, thus illicitly funding the separatists. This would also not be the first time that the Zelensky administration has moved against Poroshenko, whom it considers to be a major political opponent. When the Zelensky administration had first come to power in 2019, they had mulled going after Poroshenko loyalists. The media that the chocolate tycoon former president owns also continue to make him a formidable figure within Ukrainian politics. Though many cases previous cases against the former president had previously been opened, none were prosecuted or brought forward."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/05/ukraine-prosecutions-poroshenko-russia/

I was responding to the widely stated Kremlin line that Zelensky was appointed by and is controlled by the west. This is a fundamental basis of the original invasion objectives openly expressed by Russia. My recollections were hardly of endorsement. Zelensky is supposed to be in succession to other western planted despots during the move to democracy. If only the west did actually have such ability the world would have been a far better place.

"As for the west over throwing a sweet innocent independent patriotic elected leader, I am yet to hear details and any independently verified evidence. "

I should follow up on this because my memory of news coverage at the time was the mocking of a comedian being elected to high office. I seem to remember many critical interviews referring to his former profession, because he was an actor mocking the former president or something. I don't remember anybody questioning the electoral process. And categorically I have no memory of western leaders or US or NATO or anybody promoting, aligning too or backing somebody regarded as a clown and therefore unsuitable for high office. Where are the photo shoots of ANY western leader running to be seen with the new Ukrainian leader? I think they all quietly stayed away. The more I think back, the more ridiculous the suggestion is that Zelensky was a western puppet installed in Kyiv to undermine Russia.

I think the author is over playing the idea that many of his views are not know or talked about. I believe it as the Russians who described the Azov surrender as an evacuation and I have seen many western outlets refer to the inevitable surrender. And the history of the roots of Azov has most definitely been aired many times to the point of being direct re-quotes of the Kremlin, especially by the likes of Bowen on the BBC. As for the west over throwing a sweet innocent independent patriotic elected leader, I am yet to hear details and any independently verified evidence.

But that is the sort of open debate you get in the west. A claim is made, it is challenged and it stands up to scrutiny or is just stated and remains an unsubstantiated claim. Like with the existence of Nazis. Such groups exist, mostly, but not exclusively, in former Soviet Bloc countries. The largest contingent is actually in Russia, and spread widely within Russia too. But this particular narrative omits that when perhaps for roper balanced reporting that crucial point should perhaps have been made.

And as for the indignation that Ukraine would withdrawn the supply of goods and services to enable the occupation of it's own invaded territory, I find that response quite amusing. Exactly what else did the invading country expect? Open arms and flowers perhaps?

"Ukrainian news stands up to scrutiny in the western media, whilst Russian news doesn't. That's weird."

Except that is not what was said is it? There is plenty western media that could hardly be described as biased for Ukraine. My input includes plenty of BRICS sources both repeating Kremlin propaganda and own generated news.

It is quite a curiosity that some regard 'western' media as being as under some sort of editorial narrative like Russian media. There is definitely narrative controls going on, climate change lies, woke-isim and such. But on Russia there is more analysis and simply no covering up the invasion as an aggressive act. If NATO could be blamed for Russian aggression, there are organizations from the BBC onward who would jump all over it as the left is very much anti NATO pro CND. The US is a big NATO member and much of the European based 'western' media is pretty anti-American with a general bias in European media against America. Some of you who make these western media comments clearly haven't the first clue about the dynamics of the 'western' politics and the consequences that has on real free media, unless the employees of twitter don't like you in which case you will be cancelled no matter what position you have held by democratic consent!

As it happens, I took a lot of initial claims from Ukraine with a pinch of salt. But as the weeks rolled into months and more disparate sources confirm independently general oversight and specific individual events, I am inclined to give initial unqualified approval of a Ukraine sourced claim whilst continue to find Russian sourced claims highly unreliable and frequently just plain downright lies. Claims get analyzed, cross-referenced, adjudicated and challenged over subsequent hours and days. Ukrainian news frequently stands up to the scrutiny. Russian news doesn't.

How much posted on here is subsequently withdrawn or subject to editorial update? If you expect one public error then withdrawn null and voids the entire free and objective world's media over the last 9 months then you are one wishful thinker. Most of us sort the wheat from the chaff from a very wide range of sources, some who are very close to the center of teal power with real Intel.

Now tell everybody what the article actually says. The ref was deleted. Whether by error or sabotage incorrect information was put in the speech but quickly withdrawn. And the big news is?

There is a mere 80 odd trades listed. A live sp derived from that has little value.

Think it's time certain people set up their own chat room elsewhere. You can moderate it how you wish then.

FFS can you sod off with your constant backtracking into the aggressor etyc etc etc etc"

This is a company with significant assets is Russia, listed on the Russian stock exchange, impacted by sanctions, at risk of direct sanctions and may be even nationalized and assets sequestrated by a cash strapped Russia.

What possible actions do you think brought all that about? Love and kindness towards it's neigbours?

I have real concerns for some of you people how you bury your head in the sand and ignore the biggest issue that crashed the sp 90% in the first place as if it as just a matter of one poster's irritating opinion. No wonder so many have lost out so much here. You placed your trust and money in a very dangerous speculation buying the superiority propaganda and you've lost out big time. It's time some of you grew up and faced the reality. Russia is was and will be an aggressor and you, YOU, have paid the price for it. Deal with it before it consumes you completely.

"This will lead to counter moves by Russia which could be bad news for us."

This is why we have to split asap.

We cannot have a situation where we can not stand u to an aggressor for fear of reprisal. That only leads to further oppression and violence latter. The invasion of Ukraine proves that following on from the blind eye strategy of the west to Crimea, Georgia and the numerous other indiscretions.

The time has come to take the stand. All who held POLY before the war had full complete knowledge of what kind of activities Russia got up to and the kind of regime there a there. You invested in a high risk and sanctioned country and you got caught out. Maybe you believed the propaganda. Lessons learned.

Many of us have learned lessons like that getting carried away with hype and spin and lost money as a stock collapses. Every now and then you have to cut your losses and start again.

For those of us who jumped on the post-collapse bandwagon and now just wait for a useful return from the s lows, we also know this is now an extremely high risk share. With the assets split then some value is retained and at worst us blaggards will see breakeven.

" I am having almost a daily struggle not to go all in here"

That is not investing, that is gambling and there is one single outcome when gambling.

Nobody should let themselves be fooled into believing there is any real world truth that this share is such a hot prospect it qualifies casino gambling options. It doesn't. It is a very high risk share given it's exposure risk to sanctions, and there is significant uncertainty about a future valuation based on the necessity to split the company into two entities where it might be many years before recouping POLY R share value is possible. Like many I have frankly written off POLY R value for me.

Keep it real.

Oh dear, rattled someone's cage there. What's the matter? Did you think a smattering of postings claiming to be from inside the company and then have more postings bouncing off it creating the illusion of trusted information and backed up by sober agreement was going to fool anybody?

The challenge is simple. Get the company to release those answers themselves. There is something decidedly dodgy about the copious amount of private correspondence that is then reproduced to such limited audience's.

And you're reaction speaks volumes. You mighy as well have just owned up.

And as for so called off topic, a small group of authoritarians have been trying to dictate an extremely narrow narrative on here from the start. This isn't Russia, you do not control and will never control us, and that includes posting of alternative views that many then openly discuss in direct contempt of your diktat.

Go and set up a chat on ADVFN where you and your buddies can moderate your own little echo chamber. Stop trying to be a little busybody here.

There's just too many little nudges trying to persuade so many people to email this company. Never ever seen anything like it. There must thousands and thousands of messages in that inbox. And we are to believe they all get such detailed responses? And the company is happy to have numerous people across multiple chat boards encourage everyone else to email as well?

And some of you wonder why I am just a little cynical about this gentle nudge theory ramping?

"Buying £10 pund notes for under £2.50 will do me nicely (or even £5.00 notes, I'm not greedy)."

I am greedy which is why I am as rich as I am. This share is a play thing to dine out on, either way it turns out.