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5 mins before live price came through on app, some people will have been stung on their orders. Market was vacuuming up all those shares and the initial shake out is down, but I expect the iis to continue gobbling up all those panic sells.

Lesson number one, manual trade never negotiated orders!!

BBC says 2 more years of masks.

NO CHANCE!

People have tolerated the inconvenience despite originally being a year ago that the masks can help spread the virus (and nothing in that detail has changed). However, the reality of the extent of the contribution masks play in spreading cannot be held back much longer. The masks are covid sponges, were at the start and still are now. Forcing the wearing of masks as a knock on effect of the anti-Trump stunt is not enforceable for much longer.

The truths will out and this is one is going to be a real stinker when the levy breaks!

To be, or not to be, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous lockdown conditions,
Or to take Arms against an unrequited love to travel ,
And by opposing open up the skies: to travel, to explore;
No more; and by travelling, to say we end
The heart-ache, and the thousand natural variants
That Flesh is heir to? 'Tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To travel, to fly,
To fly, perchance first class; aye, there's the rub,
For in that sleep in first class, what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off two seven zero north,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes long haul of so long life:
For who would bear the free nuts and warm water of economy,
The Virgin livery, the proud man's left turn to his seat….

Johnbri4, as ever the Europhiles have nothing more than contempt for everybody else and expressed in the usual nasty bigoted fashion.

One thing that I find a bit weird from the so called expert some are bigging up on here, why are we bothering with a vaccination program if we believe we are going to catch the disease abroad anyway? There is something of the inverse logic about the argument this expert makes. And it is of note that he is part of a small cohort, not a consensus.
The variants are just that, variants. The probability of coming into contact with a spreader is very low since the prevalence of these headline variants is generally between 10 and 20% of the total of infected people. Then a large percentage of those with the current vaccines will be resistant and not develop the disease. The R number for these variants for a travelling population that is getting on for 100% vaccinated is going to be way down in 0.1 territory by simple probabilistic calculations. This aspect of the analysis seems to be missing from this expert. Is he somebody who has put himself on record, been called out by his peers and is now playing a gullible media in a face saving campaign? Wouldn't be the first one?
If we are just going to be susceptible to covid with the vaccine than what on earth are doing vaccinating ourselves for? As I posted earlier, if the game is to eradicate the virus and then release lockdown, it will never happen. You can no longer get rid of flu as get rid of covid. At least there are counter voices pipping up now challenging the government form the backbenches to explain extended lockdown.
I still think that the rational is such that the main market will snap up any sells and there will be under supply at the current price and I expect the sp to rise. If it doesn't then I have no change in strategy up to April 12th.

beware the editorial selective filter, the researchers have files on people like the old Soviet secret police with detailed information on views. If the BBC et all want to make the narrative that the earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese, they can pull together talking heads at will who are only to happy to waffle whatever is required on camera. You see these things described as media storms where a story line is bounced around the various media outlets with each one trying to get one up on the other. BBC has a long reach to get it's media storms up and running. Seems this weekend they are going for all holidays to stop. When those in the loop have secured their cheap travel stocks, just watch the narrative flip over and a whole new set of talking heads pop up. Keep a 360 on what you are fed through the media. You are in an environment as manipulated and controlled as what goes on in North Korea. The only difference is those running the narratives believe that because they describe themselves as liberal and 'with empathy' (currently called wok), they can not possibly be doing anything wrong like those North Koreans. The important bit viz IAG is that the overwhelming proportion of the professional traders and iis are NOT led by these narratives. They keep an eye on them and occassionaly ride them but have a longer time frame view whereas media time frame is barley longer than a one week news cycle. Incidently that is why Blair changed PMQs to one day in the week from two, in order to manage media storms to one half of the week rather than having two opportunities to keep a story alive through to the 'Sunday's' [papers] which new labour had an irrational fear of.
So keep the current narrative in perspective to how the story has chopped and changed from November, how much has been related to actual events and how many times the news on telly has seemed out of sync with the real world you live in.

anditsgone, within the BBC are groups of get rich quick people who ramp and deramp like trolls on comment board. DAB, Fibre networks, multi-media platforms, green investments.... and then of course there is the ideology of the corporation - liberal, Marxist and all things environmentalist. I will say with a strong degree of confidence that the intended consequence of this story is to depress travel stocks - on which they will already have done most of the graphics for a follow up. They are possibly in post production on the documentary of the demise of the travel industry and need to get those graphs heading south to underwrite the documentary narrative. Those in the loop will then know when the schedules are, have time to liquidate and buy-in. I remember living in Chiswick next door to a BBC minion telling me all about it and how people were making lots of money especially with lots of nods and winks from within the new labour government. There is a reason why New Labour and Blair got such an easy ride for about 8 years before the questions began!!!!!!! It's all true.

For all of the pis successfully spooked into panic sells by the spread bet groups, there will be more than enough iis with their computers set to vacuum up as many shares at these cheap prices as possible with a view to taking a profit much latter in the year whilst maintaining a holding ready for the early return of div payments. The kind of wealth fund managers and pension fund managers trading buy and leave in the computer memory where day to day sentiment swings do not register. I pulled out as this went 200+ with a bit of day trading but mostly out expecting a iis cash in. It didn't arrive so I have read that as the iis have settled on a new platform in the 200+ zone. It looks stable and so I am back in for the April 12th bull run. The current price to the iis looks cheap on that basis so any stock put to the market will be taken up so quickly there will be little or no further drop [only slow drop on very low volumes as per text book]. If anything, I expect the mm will have to mark up the price to encourage sells to meet iis demand and we may well see a drift back to the 220 zone as we approach the week before the 12th April.
The media narrative will have a lot of impact as it has since the news of the vaccine back in November.

On that basis kitty, there will be no travel ever. Some deep holes being dug here - the very same arguments could have been levelled at a range of other virus infections that do kill and which have existing annual vaccination campaigns. I am expecting a rise during the week on the basis that the politics and 'real worldism' of the situation will start to be spelled out.
The absolute point that covid is now part of the environment which will infect people along side flu, pneumonia, influenza, SARS and the rest will have to start to be the dominant narrative at some point otherwise the hole will get deeper as people are led to expect complete eradication.
Also, remember that treatments are improving all the time. I expect the narrative will have to turn to assessing the virus in terms of number of deaths in direct comparison to all the other diseases that occur annually. People bang on about the variants, there are literally thousands of variants already. Permanent lockdown is not going to stop covid and its variants passing around communities. A basic reminder of the situation we humans live in is required.

Whomsoever.... why? You going to get all uppity and indignant? Share price should have dived today shouldn't it - I mean there's been no news. Then again, market's not open either. Explain that then!

This is a pattern I've seen before. Derampers appear out of the wood work with tried and tested hints and nudges designed to mark down the opinion of a stock. Spook investors into eventually selling up and trying to cause a crash. Only iis can do that with this share, pis at best might take a couple of percentage points of in a mass panic. This isn't some penny share with volume on odd days of the week.
Typically it is 'shorters' doing this because they have no access to the mm shares. The real shorters are actually listed, see link in the title bar.
No, these deramper squads, the infamous boiler rooms, are into spread betting. They have set up positions perhaps on a 10:1 ratio that the price will go below a trigger level and they then earn 10 times their stake for every unit below that level. If it goes the other way, they have to pay out 10:1. It is why these derampers while they are here will get very exacerbated and desperate as the stock price rises. There is already a tone of insecurity in the posts. IAG is a big nut to crack with so many iis and so much automatic trading for spread betting.

We are in for a horrible onslaught of vile nasty posts, lies, more lies and complete fake leads throughout next week. But they should beware, remember what happened with that game stock in the US. Bit of community bite back and the shorters there got burned. Maybe time for the spread bett's to be turned over too.

At the moment you have to provide a valid reason for travel. There is no reason why the valid reason can not be extended to include something like 'corporate business' or 'overseas sales'.
As far as holidaying is concerned, I mentioned before that plenty of tourist destinations can effectively seal themselves as bubbles - the islands are a prime example. Other beach resorts can also do something similar. On that basis accommodating a holiday market in the main 'sunseeker' destinations is perfectly doable. Indeed there are already provisions put in place with Greece and Turkey along those lines. Also bear in mind what activities lead to the higher probability of spreading - bars, restaurants and the like. If you are holidaying then there is no reason for the same restrictions to be used in the UK to be replicated overseas. If the UK is allowing Alfresco style zones, then Spain could also declare only Alfresco allowed in holiday spots. UK government can not then say Spain is out of the window.
Also remember, the point of dealing with covid is to control a disease so that it does not overload a health service and lead to debilitating illness or death. Treatments are advancing all the time. Holiday's were never stopped in places like Spain when everybody seemed to get terrible stomach problems over there. Norovirus! Doesn't stop holidays out right, it is managed locally. This is what will happen with covid. I think a lot of the doom predictions are based on a fantasy that covid has to be eradicated totally before any lockdown can end. This is impossible.

And do remember alternative agendas. How many of those trying to push apparently convincing arguments to delay or stop overseas travel are actually climate change protagonists who see ending air travel as a target to 'save the planet' and will seize any variable they can to implement their strategy. Watch your backs, shysters all over the place looking to use covid to implement their philosophies.

Bear in mind too - these comments about variants assume they are all bad. The next variant may well be benign. We may have a variant spreading that has no symptoms or ill effects, triggers the immune system to generate anti-bodies that by their nature will tackle the base covid virus and therefore the main covid 19 and have enough of an impact on the other and future variants to maintain herd immunity (which is of course what the vaccine is attempting to do by way of organised arm injections).

Vaccinated holiday makers need only isolate themselves and inform their GP if they have any symptoms, exactly as you would do pre-covid.

" there is no data that once you have the jab you cannot catch it"

What exactly do you think the purpose of a vaccination is? You are attempting to present a slam dunk argument that negates any vaccine effect to the point you are claiming a vaccine has no effect! I've heard some rubbish in my time but this ranks in the top 1% of the stupidest indefensible positions I have ever heard.

A vaccine acts to prepare the body with the ability to fight infection such that it does not take hold and overwhelm the immune system. The ultimate consequences of what ever the disease brings are therefore avoid. The degree of infection in the body is kept very low.
The more people who are able to respond like this means the ability to pass on the disease reduces. As the ability to pass on the disease reduces, less people who could spread it get it and the spread diminishes. The feedback effect results in a point where enough people with respect to the concentration and ease of transmission are defensive that the spread is on a reducing curve - herd immunity.
The vaccine will never stop the spread of covid in the same way that the flu vaccines cannot stop the spread of flu. There are some vaccine success that have eradicated some diseases to such an extent that they are effectively deleted - you all remember your jabs as kids and over the years of constant vaccination major illnesses have been removed.
For covid, the vaccine will move the infection spread into the herd immunity window - that is why the slow progress of the EU is annoying, the EU herd immunity will be delayed unnecessarily.
For a vaccinated UK traveller, if they travel to an infected zone [herd immunity or not] and pick up covid, they will combat the disease as any other they are vaccinated against. When they return to the UK, the concentration of contaminant they are able to express will be very low. It is a reported fact that to contract covid you need a good long concentrated dose explaining why transmission between people in closed rooms is cited as one of the main spreading environments. The other is the masks, they accumulate the virus on each outward breath until there is a very high concentration of the virus on the mask, people are constantly touching the mask, they then touch other surfaces and items [on shelves], the next person comes along and touches the same spot and then their face and inevitably many infect themselves.
There is still some debate about how transmissible somebody is who has antibody response to covid. The published literature to date indicates very low transmissibility with no symptoms such as coughing and sneezing.
Whilst face masks continue to be forced the spread of covid will continue. Politicians and broadcasters have backed themselves into a corner on that one [it was institutionalised by the WHO as an anti-Trump gesture against a wall of opposition from the medical community which has been well and truly suppressed].

Might be worth watching for any throw away comments that could move the market a tick or two for a spot of day trading;

On Tuesday 23 March, MPs on the Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee (PACAC) will hold an evidence session to look at the ethical and legal issues surrounding the potential use of ‘vaccine certificates’, sometimes referred to as ‘vaccine passports’.

The Committee will hear from Gracie Bradley, Interim Director of human rights charity Liberty, Rt Hon David Davis MP, and Professor Jonathan Wolff, Alfred Landecker Professor of Values and Public Policy at the University of Oxford.

Watch the session from 9.30am, Tuesday 23 March: https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Commons

MyRed, nothing to do with not listening to any opinion or view. But the gobbledygook posted by 'chartists' that makes no analytical sense which is praised to the rafters if the prediction hits but quietly swept under the carpet when they don't; which is most of the time.
The qualification given to a 10% sp decline, however, rather exposed the weakness behind the methodology trying to claim there was no news that might affect the sp. That was laughable and I immediately treat such comments with the contempt they deserve. People who believe there is some sort of divine mysterious force that adjusts prices according to historic ticks on a graph deserve to be called out and put down. It is about as accurate as calling the next lottery numbers based on previous draw history. A nonsense.
For people who need to follow gurus, and get drawn to people like this one, good luck to you - I predict [looking at both b-mark lines, the red cross over and the very obvious 3 tick over up under gap] that the followers will be parted from the their money in due course.
Chartism is like homeopathy, a belief system that when challenged with organised analysis fails on every turn.

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"but wait there wasn't any" news, noooo, no, no there has been no news at all over the last few days, no issues with EU suspending vaccination, no problems with supply, nope no news anywhere. Nothing.

I think you are just a simple little troll trying to winding people up. You need to cut down drinking whatever it is. You are so full of it and will now join your buddies on the filter list.

No news over the last week, what the ****?

Some smart money moving in. Interim announcement due form FCA? Think those of us who took a punt after the crash are about to get a fast reward. Looking forward to next week. Major turn around today, not so much DYOR as read between he lines!

"Share Prices only move on sentiment - not News, NAV, or Fundamentals these are just following sentiment - until any of you really get this I'd stay away from share dealing - you will get emotionally attached, which completely denies sentiment."

So the news that a vaccine had been successful trialled had zip, zero, nought, nowt, nuffing effect of the sp of almost every share all around the world?

And when a fundamental like the number of shares in circulation changes or a div payment is made, then there is actually no change in the sp???

As I asked before, can you hear yourself?