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"You say we’re all stupid and ignorant."

Where have I ever said that? I didn't read anything further but did notice claiming an Oxford degree, and? That means....?? Are you claiming to be more superior than everybody else and therefore anything you say is infallible?

Interesting. I point out a couple of points for pis to note and consider, and like an avalanche you and others go ape bouncing of the wall in hysterics as if I have just exposed a very inconvenient truth hat you are all running around no trying to fire fight.

How very revealing.

POLY announced themselves redom options in press interviews. You never ever in a million years pre-empted such information. If you did, it would have been hogged on here louder than a fog horn. Instead, the office stopped responding to emails - didn't they!!!

"I wonder John why this was not mentioned in the presentation in this way."

Even chique is questioning the validity of a post by johnNth.

This is a public forum Chique, I haven't interfered or disrupted anything. I merely raise points and warnings.

YOU perhaps need to explain why that agitates you so much.

OK JohnN. Now get the company to publish what you have just said in a press release. Otherwise, you are claiming to have had a private briefing from the company.

RED FLAG! Al PIs should ask themselves whether such private briefings are real, and if so are the details reproduced in places like this true and accurate or altered to suite a ramp narrative.

BEWARE! You can not verify what is posted unless the company explicitly posts the same information publicly as it apparently does privately.

I understand chique, you and a few others are running out of time to reel in gullible pis and fleece them one last time. I understand you are angry that some come on here, wake up some of the gullible and interfere with the great scheme.

I can not possibly be interfering with anybody since I only raise pertinent points to consider which you and your boiler room studiously avoid. My only direct advise is, get independent financial advice. I don't advise to buy, sell or hold. That is the decision for the PI after considering ALL information.

Why are some of you so angry and afraid of all angles being aired for consideration?

There is to be a circular.

Some are day trading this up to the suspension.

Some PIs are being led to believe from the spin this is a good investment.

Some of those PIs will be fleeced before suspension.

Nothing I say qualifies the infantile personal abuse. It is all fact.

"Now the news is out and in the system and sp is holding"

... or ......... a circular was promised and some are waiting on that. There are a couple of weeks of trying to day trade and take money from the gullible that believe in the re-dom rainbow crap being posted. Before suspension could happen any moment, now a time from up to 30t May has been given. However, the 'circular' could hold difficult details for the rampers and rainbow chasers to spin, so PIs will stll be fleeced without warning anyway.

Better odds on turning a profit on the nags.

Thank you onebeyond.... You elegantly prove my point.

However, rather than people 'pooling their [lack] of knowledge' as is blatantly apparent, why are you not clubbing together, fifty quid each, and then contract the services of an independent financial advisor that specialises in international private investor share dealing? You will then have the answers you are all desperately searching for. Why not? Instead you return to attacking the messenger. The constant evasion and objection to such a simple recommendation shows many of you have dubious motives with your posts to trick and mislead pis, and so counteracting such activity remains valid.

Debt is up, increased, red flag. The business is in trouble. It still has not shifted its stockpile. The fire sale of Russian assets may still have to go ahead. I didn't see any update on that which speaks volumes.

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People are on here now making decisions about large sums of money and it is time to STOP that garbage"

What garbage? Posting warnings about things to consider and evaluate? The very act of people like you constantly attacking people who aren't engaged in trying to trick investors into keeping a holding or risk converting to certificates or even throwing more money at this speaks for itself. Clearly pointing out the evasive positions of nearly every broker mentioned troubles the rampers and snake oil sales people on here. It alerts investors to think, and hence TAKE PROFESSIONAL INDEPENDENT FINANCIAL ADVICE which is the very last thing some of you want private investors to do, because you know exactly what that advice will be and the disastrous effect that will have on the sp and on the value of your holding.

You are just plain selfish.

I think some of you are trying to convince yourselves there are only minor admin issues to overcome. Frankly, if the major platforms mentioned here are being so evasive, should you not read between the lines. They do not want to help you because of what the company is connected too by way of physical assets and nationality of the people involved. This is a hard truth that is going to have to be factored in from now for a generation. Add in the current interpretation of sanctions, potential future sanction issues and it is easy to see why the brokers simply don't want to get involved. I doubt there will be any forthcoming facilities for all the brokers except the one that POLY appears to be setting up an agreement with. And as with GDRs, expect that one to fall through too as other institutions refuse to cooperate when they realise what is being done.

I would also be extremely cautious with the certificate holding route. They will have been issued in an 'unfriendly' jurisdiction and may end up worthless bits of paper. You may find if they have value they can only be converted in person in somewhere like KZ, payouts like dividends restricted to KZ nationals and all manner of other issues trying to use paper certificates. And before you start, in person is not uncommon in order to check the certificates are genuine and the holder is identified to avoid money laundering and theft. There are many reasons why very few paper certificates are held by anybody today.

"ok there are a few hurdles like a broker"

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Although I note that you haven't added anything pertinent"

except I have been making the only singular pertinent remark here for months.

Get independent financial advice.

You're flapping around like headless chickens trying to figure out how to hammer the square peg through the round hole. You've all been trying to solve this riddle for a year and none of you seem any the wiser.

Remember, on chats like this if the rampers can't get you to buy, they will twist and say anything to stop you selling, hence all the pseudo intellectual talk about certificate holding and wrappers.

Beware! Ingnore every bit of advice posted here except, get your own independent financial advice. Nobody can object to that.

As this discussion shows, nobody can be definitive with the best option case by case.

Go and talk to an independent financial advisor. Pay the few hundred quid. It may stop you making a very expensive error. Not all rainbows can be chased.

" as I will not accept being a forced seller."

Jeeeeezzzz.... go and talk to an independent financial advisor for cuffs sake!

When the company delists, your broker will sell your shares automatically and just give you the proceeds. Some of you need to stop guessing and go and get professional advice before you're all sold out.

"so I may celebrate with a Nando's. "

Naaa.. KFC any day. Far more for your money. Big deal is back, currently £5.99 for 20 hot wings.

Https://twitter.com/i/status/1656036941479936000

Does this place remind you of any where?

lol

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/16878

Https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/05/10/frontline-report/

Oh dear.

Even starting to take back Bakhmut and the counter offensive is still in the softening up stage with Partisans increasing activity within Russia.

The deluded have started, already claiming POLY will be back on LSE so no worries. If you believe that crap you deserve to lose your money frankly. The KZ option was supposed to have been dumped in favour of a Gulf state. You've all been had.