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Back to the campaign to do and say whatever lie is nessacary to mislead people into filtering big blue, who is cleary hammering more nails squarely on the head.

one.....zebra, that was a real panicky email with every single statement an outright lie. The harder you try, the more you underline it.

"Western sanctions do not allow UK based companies to pay divis to Russia based shareholders. "

The sanctions were against Euroclear. The nationality of the shareholder is irrelevant. You are just winging talking any old crap. The same crap that may well result in an FCA investigation over your receiving insider information from an unnamed source in Polymetal International, or so you claim.

""If dividends can be paid by the certificate route, or share transfer to AIX, so easily, then why hasn't this been arranged so far."

Cos the vote to redom have not taken place yet you dimwit"

But the proposed dividend payment route does not require re domiciling the company, certainly not for KZ earnings and I don't see the impediment for all earnings unless Russia has been constantly seizing the companies cash within Russia. The proposal is to pay dividends via the AIX exchange to people whose holding is registered as paper or otherwise on AIX. Russia does not control AIX. So why haven't shareholders been guided to move their holdings out of London to AIX previously then POLY just closes the London listing? That way the sanctions stopping the dividend payment would have been bypassed many many months ago.

The only advantage I can see to re dom the country to a friendly jurisdiction is so it is easier to fire sale assets. And there is a buyer in the background. And this tail chasing about redoming has allowed the company to go a full year avoiding paying any divvies. And what should have paid been paid has not been stashed away in some bank account ready for paying out.

I think the company has not disclosed that it wasn't able to make a dividend payment all last year and used all the re-dom stuff as a delaying tactic. Now, debt is still higher, costs very much higher, income hasn't increased any where near enough to cover the increased cost. I think this company is in real trouble and the delisting from London a diversion whilst a big asset sell of is put through.

A feeling of 'lambs to the slaughter' for the PIs comes to mind.

And nobody is apparently noticing the obvious here?

If dividends can be paid by the certificate route, or share transfer to AIX, so easily, then why hasn't this been arranged so far? Nothing has changed except to name an exchange already listed on to become the primary exchange.

But magically that changes everything such that huge dividends can now be paid out so simply. If now, why not before?

Something doesn't smell right about this and the flase momentum about all the apparently friendly helpful advice. I would definitely be raising this question with an independent financial advisor.

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I am still waiting for your apology for lying to the board.

Don't test me. Redom and transferring shares will be the least of your worries.

Ahh cool, my new tablet let's me put emoji's

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I wonder what else

.... just emoji's

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Mass ramping now.🤩

The apology and admission JohnNth, or the letter will be sent.

I'm not one for issuing idle threats.

Now expand your knowledge further, such as

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/intelligence+report

You will note 'intelligence' is not synonymous with secret or confidential.

You're welcome.

Intelligence is only confidential if marked as confidential you pea brain. There are mountains of intelligence out there none of which is classified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classified_information

Now go and educate yourself. I suggest you read the entire entry, then do a word search on the page for 'intelligence', a mere 14 matches, and inform yourself of the difference between intelligence and confidential.

You are such a waste of time.

So, JohnNth, you fully admit you did not receive information privately from an insider in the company detailing a list of alternative domicile locations before such information was public. You admit you had no unique information despite trying to claim you did. You admit you lied.

Don't try and obfuscate referring to the split or GDR. You claimed to have received explicitly a list of alternative re-domicile listing locations. That is the specific focus. You lied it about to try and make yourself look big and important.

Now, make a public apology to all the people you tried to mislead with a clear admission of your lying to ensure the mater is closed before I drop off the days post at 4.15pm. And I mean it, don't try to get clever with me any more.

Who said it was confidential? How has national security been breached (and whose)?

There is often a big difference between what an intelligence report details and what a journalist and editor decide to put out in a news story. Same with a press release. The POLY results reports contain a great deal of intelligence, most of which is not reproduced by other agencies. Somebody commenting on news summaries of the results on here may be given additional information by those familiar with the report details. It happens all the time on here in that context.

All I have ever done is exactly the same thing. Expanded on details and information passed over by media. There is a great deal of intelligence out there, but in these days of superficial internet searches, it is deeply buried unless you know key words to search and there is still huge amounts of printed reports and intel that never makes it online.

Occasionally I decide it is inappropriate to post the source of information which still may not be online but is certainly not confidential or classified and I specifically state that the information is un-sourced. That is just an identity mater regarding someone who does not wish to be part of the circus.

Now as I said, you are well out of your depth here and you should log off and keep your head down over JohnNth insider dealing bragging. Now that one really could lead to criminal prosecutions.

JohnNth

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Price: 225.00

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RE: Redom Back to London within 12-18 months11 May 2023 14:03

Bb...go back and check back dates on press release and date when I posted. You will find I posted info before official press release.

This is your incriminating post. Now think very carefully. Do you stand by this statement, or are you going to admit you are simply trying to score points claiming to have special private contacts with the company when you don't and in fact you were reposting information previously in the public domain which didn't receiver chat attention as everybody was focused on the main company declaration.

Give the wrong answer and any ensuing scandal may bring down the entire company. So I suggest you think very, very carefully.

BSR, you're way out of your depth here, you would be well advised to shut up and bow out of this.

So, JohnNrth claims that he had information that the company was seeking alternative re-dom locations supplied directly and exclusively to him by an individual in the company. That would allow him to make trades ahead of disclosure to the market and distribute the market sensitive information to a limited audience that may have been advised to monitor his posts in order to receive such sensitive information before the market.

He claims this was unique information not revealed to the market by the company through either press release, interview, presentation or RNS previously. He has not named the individual at Polymetal International that released the unique market sensitive information.

Share price movement indicates a sudden reversal of the share price drop compared to the 25th and 26th January occurring on the 27th January, the same day the inside information was distributed to the limited network. The information can be considered of such importance that it would be capable of significantly influencing trading decisions compared to the information released and revealed during the 25thJanuary.

Whether JohnNth was used by the company or a co-conspirator working with the company will be a matter for the investigating team to determine.

If true, this would be a clear and deliberate case of insider dealing. This will be reported for investigation to the FCA by me, and by a number of others who have lost out heavily, especially in January, will also report this incident as they will be looking to form a class action to recover trading losses due to insider dealing.

You've all got a very short space of time to get your story sorted out. I'm sure the last thing the company needs right now is an insider dealing investigation.

I think even The Motley Fool mentions KZ alternatives before or on 27th Jan, which will be why few took any notice at the time. And there is a misty memory of Nesis talking about looking for alternatives to KZ which I think is also where the GDR idea was floated to. I'm pretty sure it was out there before January 27th, and POLY will no doubt demonstrate this when their offices are raided by the FCA investigation team.

Oh and to anybody connected to POLY reading this, you better get JohnNth sorted out with his facts or else there will be an insider dealing investigation to deal with. For real! A lot of people have lost out big on this share and will grab any straw to get some restitution.

Well just back in front of the computer.

I can't get past the login but I believe the first mention of possible alternatives to KZ was mentioned back in Sept 2022

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4542746-polymetal-a-look-beyond-the-headlines-of-h1-2022-results

I can only see this

"Polymetal just reported financial results for H1 2022 and the numbers ... A likely possibility is Hong Kong, where for instance Rusal is ..."

The other one is behind the ADVFN login

Polymetal International Plc Share Price (POLY)

ADVFN

https://uk.advfn.com › stock-market › london › share-...

27 Jan 2023 — Polymetal share price and POLY stock charts. ... 3) They are also exploring re-domiciliation to Abu Dhabi and Hong Kong.

So I suspect the source of the 27th Jan on ADVFN is where you picked it up and then copied over to LSE which was old news already. It seems there is an ADVFN user with exactly the same user name as you.

I don't have much time to recover each news story but I do remember a few people pointing out that the contents of these insider emails actually contained nothing more than what was in the public domain and even some posting the alleged emails even said so when accused of insider dealing!

I have no facility to search back through this chat so far but one thing is for sure, nobody at Polymetal released to you privately considering Hong Kong or Abu instead of KZ without it already being in the public domain because that would be blatant insider dealing and a breach of disclosure rules which will lead to a criminal prosecution.

You may have picked up a piece of news as it broke and quickly posted it on ADVFN then LSE. If indeed you actually did receive insider information, then that will be reported to the FCA and a full investigation will follow.

So think back carefully because you are playing with real fire now. Maybe some of your 'friends' here will prompt your memory.

Https://www.mining.com/web/russia-linked-polymetal-may-list-in-abu-dhabi/

Bloomberg News | March 24, 2023 | 2:52 pm

Do you all remember now? The news breaking in March? How despondent everybody was? What happened to KZ you were all asking? Then all the posts about Abu possibilities? And now? Suddenly Abu is out and KZ back in.

JN, you believe in the philosophy that people have short memory spans and can be distracted and nudge theorised to dance to what ever contemporary tune you chose?

News, for you. They can't. They won't. People know when they are being duped.

Busted.

JN, you are such a bare faced Liar! You did not get insider information from the company and then posted it here ahead of any company release via interview or press release. Your actually talking about the 25th January presentation information which was commented on within minuets on here and openly discussed.

You are so full of it.