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"Why should my kids futures be screwed up to pay to protect old people"

Why should I be paying taxes to protect your kids? They are not my responsibility yet my taxes are spent in so so many ways to look after your kids, in the NHS, policing to protect them on the streets, education whether private or state, tax benefits for you [huh!] and the rest of the infrastructure from government coffers to provide a quality of life they won't find in many other places on the planet for free. Why am I , indeed why are any of us paying to provide your children any quality of life. Should we not put them on a plane and dump them in Kenya and let nature take its course - survival of the fittest?

I happen to know quite a lot about what goes on in the end of life decision tree. NICE by the way was an invention of the Blair government whereby they could palm off the politically hot decisions on what healthcare and medicines are available. Labour made huge headwinds hammering the Tories on a daily basis about healthcare rationing for over a decade. When they got into office and discovered just how horrifically expensive it would be to do what they had been asking for and finding there weren't even people around to deliver it, they invented things like NICE to put caps on treatments without the finger of cuts being pointed directly at them. It was a classic Blair/Brown smoke and mirrors.

People who hold such little value to life like you Smithy, are a danger to everybody. You have crossed over to a place where, in your mind, you have qualified harming and indeed killing off people. You are an extremely dangerous person and should be immediately taken into custody and committed. I support living wills where people lay down the conditions for their own end of life, more formally than often happens now, and support the idea of cliniques to terminate life as a matter of choice for terminal conditions. I do not support maintaining life during intensive suffering that will never be relieved. But it is by choice. Not by a Smithy dictat, who may live and who may die depending on whether you're having a good or bad day with your PTSD. Go back to your forces medic, show them your posts on here and consent to whatever intervention they think is necessary. Sorry for your troubles. I hope you can recover and rejoin society latter.

Jtan, I find the response to the variant completely wrong. It shows the world is a long way from returning to rational thinking, if it ever was at such a level to begin with. The human being is a very flawed animal. Boris has got this very wrong, he is playing to the media gods gallery rather than pragmatic considerations. The policy and reaction is wrong, especially since those involved in SA are feeding back info by the hour.

And for masks, well Scotland has mandatory mask wearing. England does not. Who is now reporting multiple cases of the variant?

"Stay at home then. Why should my kids futures be screwed up to pay to protect old people, when they can do that simply by not leaving the house?"
You messed that up a bit but ....

So you think all children younger than your own that do not meet some sort of able bodied threshold are also to be culled? Does the colour of skin matter? Religion? Gender [real or imagined]? Do you dream of a puritanical arian landscape by any chance? I find you Smithy, to be a thoroughly repulsive individual. You need to be incarcerated immediately to protect the community. You have expressed intent to rid the planet of old people and in my opinion are such a danger to society you should be committed.

Anyway, the route on the market has resumed, albeit in slow motion now. The hysterical world reaction and the failure for signs to emerge that U-turns are even being considered is now going to settle into the markets. This time round though, the lockdowns are being openly questioned and the damage done will most likely inform to delay future lockdowns as it becomes accepted by the 'slow' scientists that the initial observations of Omicron were correct. I think there has something to do with the source being SA and there is a lot of residual anti-SA resentment from the apartheid error hanging around. So the SA input has been largely dismissed. Then we have the problem with slow science. Modern scientists are no longer high brow intellectuals who will change tack with ease. They are like slow lumbering tankers that have to be stroked and persuaded to consider and then accept what they previously BELIEVED in. It is far less these days about fact and much more about fitting the data to fit your desired outcome and bias. The whole climate change crap is testament to that. Note how many carefully selected scientist gob ****es selected for interview are able to instantly accept the notion there is a major problem and they must be given immediate control, but refuse point blank information that would lead to relinquishing that control and instead are insisting they must control the narrative for at least two or three weeks. As with a lot of things, this has more to do with the vanity then the science.

OK. This is a little further over the right than I had ever thought before. I'm not snowflake but some comments here are far to radical for my liking.

collateral maybe, but the language is towards the desire to euthanize, that is dangerous talk because you then have to put in the delimitation line. How do you decide who lives and dies? Are we back to Logan's run already? And once you start, you end up categorizing more and more who start to appear unworthy of being alive simply due to the fact those in more difficult circumstances have been removed.

I accept the hippocratic oath that the fundamental position is to preserve life first. There is a lot of, how shall we call it, 'ease of passing' that takes place for people at the end of life. There is also rather a wide definition of circumstances that result in the infamous DNR sign being placed over your hospital bed. You should see the response of patients that casual look up and see it hanging over their bed without them knowing it was being put there!!!

But Smithy has a seeking attention party trick of constantly addressing as a solution to something and in a brutal fashion. Indeed, putting actual age limits on life which is meaningless. Too much and getting a bit boring.

Smithy, your party trick of wishing older people be killed off with is becoming rather boring.

Clearly you have a big issue at the front of your mind. You are afraid of dying. It is ever present in your mind. It intrudes into your posts in the most obscure fashion. Your own mortality dominates your whole mind. That much is apparent.

The irony is, you are the one who will stress yourself with your fears to such an extent, you will beat all us to the grave. We will give you a good send off at the dog and duck though, you can be sure of that.

Yup, market happy with Easy J results, no shockers in there. Also kick back against hysterical response to variant grows. From the violent protests of late, now vocal protests for normally compliant back benchers, mass media editors that just can not ignore the extent of doubts being raised --- I think we are on the verge of the age of the lockdown being finished. Still very worrying the response globally trying to chase the spread of virus which is just nuts, and very weak governance locally where Boris feels he needs to be see to be doing something and so we have a stealth quarantine and those bloody stupid masks being forced on us again. I won't bother if I go into a shop and see what happens. There are plenty of alternative shops around. I might test the rule in other ways. It requires a 'face covering'. OK, how about my hand? Large post-it note? A loose thread scarf?

Radio 4 still giving platform to people pushing back hard on the direct medical reports from SA. It is clear the scientific community expected to old court at the center of attention again for a few weeks but have been sidelined by the info coming from SA. Posturing, vanity, office politics....

Easy J within expectations, nothing spectacular. If there is a readover to IAG it is that nothing special is going on and things are bumping along more or less as expected.

Vocal opposition to the masks is finally breaking surface in news broadcasts. Expecting more questioning of whether they are effective at doing anything during debate in house. So far the main issue of passing on concentrated contamination is not being broadcast. But it has taken a very long time for the subject of masks to be discussed at all. The mask lobby have their comfort blanket back for the moment so I expect intense counter lobbying to keep masks imposed on people.

Looks like the book was just about balanced today. I should have listened to myself and dumped everything when they were all 5% up. Buy back after the fall. Easy J results might have a significant effect leveraging the sector against the backdrop of the panic reaction. SA working hard to 'educate' the world. Too many countries still look like they are trying to control the spread of a virus. Unbelievable.

Can you see the 'posturing'? Those looking for the limelight with the kind of news they know mass media likes? Can you detect the bull and generalisations which have basis? Can you spot the total lack of cross examination? It is what the media wants to hear. There is no 'colour' in reveal the variant is no big deal. I've seen through this in the mass media many many years ago. It is like this on most issues and has been since Blair and the spin doctors ruined real news reporting.

Meanwhile Sturgeon is pressing for much stricter travel bans for UK.

This 'incident' is a great insight into what all they shysters are really all about. Playing to the gallery and the gods of TV.

A lot of people thing my questioning of the hysterical climate change lie is to far out. What you hear on that subject is exactly what you are seeing now. One talking head repeats what they heard elsewhere, which is then passed on to another broadcast and within just a few hours a fundamental is laid down and everybody in the closed vox pop community is signed up to it. Even if it is total crap. Well on this one the people involved first hand are out knocking the story back, but see how slow the media is to reverse what has been blasted out so out of the loudspeakers. It means loss of broadcasting face. It is a huge tanker to stop, let alone turn around. So for the WHO to start talking up is a real eye opener.

WHO backpedaling. Truly jaw dropping stuff. Next they'll be admitting masks should have been banned throughout"

https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Airline-News/WHO-criticizes-travel-bans-over-omicron

Sector is up a few points, and again I think the market is ahead of the 'scientists' and governments who are more playing up for media. However, if there isn't rapid backpedaling on closed borders, then much further dips are possible. Looking at how the reliable 'coal face' information from SA is being dismissed so far, retreat looks less likely. Don't forget the vanity and the saving off face. You've just closed your borders in full. Now you are going to say that isn't necessary and immediately return to open borders. Can you imagine the calm level headed respectul news presentations that will follow? I am most worried about the quarantine imposed until PCR cleared. For the lockdown lobby I don't think they are going to give that up so easily.

I still have a 50/50 do I dump everything now expecting the sector to be pulled further under as this begins to drag out? Or do I risk it and hope that common sense finally surfaces around the planet. If I don't hear words form ministers being positive in referencing reports form the doctors in SA and a calming down of the rhetoric, then I think it might be more prudent to get out ahead of a new decline and buy back latter.

Place your bets.....

"Anecdotal reports from SA on the symptoms being mild"

Errmmm....... the reports on the symptoms come from the doctors treating the patients. That was a perfect example of how mass media like the BBC select for broadcast specific people who will say specific things. That was an awful interview in the q&a and so far away form the mark. Clearly that was someone from the lobby looking to extend this is far as possible for their academic research, kudos and vanity.

I wouldn't touch Jet2. The adverts continue on TV like nothing is happening all through the year. It looks like a cover!!!! I think some of the big names are in very real trouble but keeping a public front. I think Jet2 is possibly the most vulnerable in the sector.

Today programme and wireless news not drawing on this yet. I suspect the mass media is trying to figure out how to get out of this now. R4 giving platforms to people to force mask wearing, mask lobby all over it again. This is a significant population control measure that can be pushed on the false premise that it is 'obvious' and there is a well established group who will not let this go now. We may be forced to wear masks seasonally from now on forever until the media fascists are removed and proper democracy is returned.