RE: P/E 3.6 - Dividend?22 Oct 2021 13:31
Hello Walkley and all, indeed, Lookers (LOOK) is in exactly the same position with P/E of around 3 valued at next to nothing as real estate property owned is more or less equal to market cap, and investors waiting to see optimum dividend/debt/buyback policy.
I think patience and occasional top-ups must be the best policy for private investors at both companies at present, I did my last one early in lockdown I think and that has proved a useful averaging down as I was happy to pay over 30p for former regular dividends. My PDG holding is of medium size and my LOOK one large size by private investor standards, overall this dual holding is in profit excluding dividends but it's been a hell of a ride and needed courage in far worse times to get there.
The Lookers bulletin board - and from memory the UK press - had frequent references to the Cazoo float in the USA, which by all accounts is over-hyped and over-priced relative to sales volume and income but those investors participating are happy to read about the gimmicks, how we're different, how we're unicorn etc, the start-up losses etc knowing they're possibly able to sell the shares on at a profit in a short timescale. In reality if Cazoo wants to be serious in UK car retailing rather than just being a minor nuisance to web offerings of PDG etc they can't rectify much of this without buying PDG or LOOK, or one of the other players that I know a lot less - earnings are excellent at most presently. The difference is that they have bags of cash on deposit to spend.
I haven't examined the pension commitments here recently, but at Lookers it didn't make sense to rectify too much too soon, because yield on bonds etc required for these commitments is likely to be higher in the medium future making the capital purchases for each Pound of pension income cheaper in the future than they are now.
Finally playing devil's advocate but unfortunately one has to, to understand why City and private investors diverge - PDG has gone from hard times to boom so quickly that perhaps P/E of 3.6 is just dismissed as cyclical peak? Consistency on present earnings/costs or something creditable and close must surely reward the patient - and reversion to excuses and musical chairs in the boardroom reward the doom-mongers and any private short sellers - there aren't any public ones, which is one of the best signs.