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Network rail managers.

Bt managers accepted 4% too

Both get bonuses and performance related pay rises as well. So it’s more than 4.

Team members have not agreed , the bulk of the workforce under stronger union.

I’m still waiting for my paper certificates through the post from Halifax.

To confirm from a post below. Is there some form being sent that I need to fill in and post to evraz? Or do I need to do nothing when the paper certs arrive?

Thanks

Moon ?

Whose reinvesting their divi or taking as cash?

I doubt Jansen will be in post in 2026. CEO’s in Bt usually last 4/5 years

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Fleccy couple of points.

1. Footballers completely different job and industry to telecoms ceo
2. Footballers mostly ‘work hard’ to be at the top on decent wages, and talent is a key factor that doesn’t apply in usual jobs. Footballers mostly work hard in their context. there are plenty with talent who don’t make it or reach their potential.

2. Dave ward earns £100k and £40k combined pension and bonus contributions which is a fraction of Jansen.

Yes. They did contradict. But that is what they said. One guy was particularly helpful. I was inclined to take his advice which matched evraz email and hinted in rns

What more can we really do? No one has a definitive answer.

In a nutshell if you can get paper take it. Put back digital later if possible. If you cant get paper you can’t get paper, go with the flow and all isn’t lost.

Halifax didn’t say that to me, two advisors both recommended I take certificates, both said ‘I can’t advise you but , take the certs’

I didn’t say that I agreed with an overtime ban or more strikes. I just said that is what they would have to do as a union as it’s their only bargaining chip.

Why don’t people try to see things from the other sides perspective? As shareholders the idea is to view things from all angles to get a picture of where things are going

As for working to rule in BT ;
Team members , particularly engineers are not performance driven to the same degree they were a few years ago. Performance reviews have been ditched. Bonus scheme is mostly not implemented and it is just automatically awarded. It’s purpose was to avoid pension contributions on part of the salary.
The bonus scheme may be used as a control method In time but isn’t currently.

Engineers do take pride but historically they Down tools when told.

There were not many on picket lines but I am reliably informed that most did not attend work and stayed at home.

Some build engineers will be released with terms in time but as is part of the currently agreed plan with the cwu the work force will be reduced in key areas via natural attrition as has been the case for managers and currently for some team members , predominantly desk based higher grades. There won’t be a need for a mass exodus, those have been rumoured for the last 15 years.

I would think they will need to step up the action , more strike days and overtime bans etc , to get Bt talking. Only prolonged damage would change this boards mind.

Thank you for your detailed analysis

100,000 minus 58,000 = 42,000

Chances the payment will go through in September?

Chances evraz end up in forced liquidation?

Interested to know, not seen this covered myself.

Thanks

Chrisabipp completely agree it is boring.

So I will let Fleccy have the last word. Macho bravado marine action man

Fleccy I haven’t confirmed or denied my level of telecom experience, you’re making more assumptions

The reason I don’t want to talk shop, is because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I repeat ;

You make assumptions and put out false information anyway, to support your narrative. I do not.

To make it clear, I don’t put out incorrect information . So my experience is not of your concern.
You do put out false information. And it is recorded below.

I am happy for you to continue talking shop with your misinformation and have it continue to be recorded here.

‘I made an assumption without checking it out’
But you felt compelled to argue your case and misinform

‘Makes Little difference’
I think 42,000 worker miscalculation does make more than a little difference.

I don’t wish to disclose my experience. It is clearly more than yours, which is based on ‘assumptions without checking it out’

You make assumptions and put out false information anyway, to support your narrative. I do not.

Fleccy can you comment on your slight miscalculation in the number of workers between 100,000 and 58,000?

Everyone in here going on about ancient cwu views and workers.

Do any of you realise how ancient you sound saying ‘they’re lazy , go find another job if you don’t like it’

Really is a backward mentality.