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Ratcliffewriter, your 09.34
In my opinion you are doing the same as Wildforce (and many others) here.
You are trying to do the BOD's job by putting a better spin on the contents of the RNS. You shouldn't have to do that, and I now understand why you feel that some people are tring to act against you. They are not. they are taking the view that the abiguity (or lack of positives) in RNSs are what the company wants to put out to the Market, whereas you and others can see the positives.
Don't call those who take the RNS literally names. They are working on information the Company itself have given them. They see what the wider market sees.
Scancell should get a better communications device in place. Then we can all see what the Company are trying to achieve rather than having to have it interpreted on a public Forum.
It's good to see that you feel so passionately about Scancell, but in the final analysis It's what the Company says that counts. They need to sharpen up.

Wildforce
Surely in the context of the company and its present finacial situation the "News" is that Scancell can now expedite the platform's development which it was in no position to do before. Yes, the collaboration has ended, but there are now positives, none of which were mentioned in that disaster of an RNS.
It is interesting that even you are having to "spin" the situation when you say that Scancell is a different animal now.
In my opinion those who focus on the downside are realists, those who try and talk it up are doing the job that the BOD failed to do. Why? Because the BOD seem to have no idea of how to "sell" Scancell.
I thought Redmile approached the BOD for the additional funds last year? Why? Was it because the BOD were too reticent?
Isn't that a bit of a worry?
I think it is. I wouldn't have posted this followup but for the fact Wildforce you (and others) are doing what this BB has done before. You are making excuses for the BOD's lack of expertise in marketing and communicating. The science side of the company (as always) is fine!
This is not "Doomster" talk, this is realism.
Scancell need to communicate better rather than to have a group of BB posters making the positive points that the Company fail to communicate. I say this as you have made points that the company could have done
Don't you agree?
You have made points that the Company could have done. Why do you have to do this?
It seems wrong to me.

The move down to this level was always on the cards, and that is fulfilling the expectation on the Chart. We were so close to the gap yesterday it looked odd when we were being told that there were big buys at 13.5.
I do not believe they were buys, more like sells at that time. However the remaining trades for the day were surprising (to me but not way out of line.
That gap has now been filled. Some have bought at these levels others have sold. So what? Who cares whether someone's shed their load? Why all the acrimony? Why the veiled comments about "doomsters" etc?
If you think the Share price is due to fall; sell. If you don't hold.
I think this BB is more about gang warfare than interest in Scancell.
By all accounts the RNS this morning was an object lesson in how to screw up on announcing a potential positive for Scancell. I do not think this is in any way terminal, but it does showcase failings in the BOD in the context of their ability to "sell" Scancell, and since that is their job now they certainly know how not to do it.
I reckon Scancell should have a bright future, but wo is going to sell that future? Oh yes, the same people who put out "That" RNS!
Notice how so many here are trying to put a spin on the announcement?
The BOD should have done that!
Shouldn't they?

Dickpullar
not so sure about that but not the best managed RNS...
Looks like the near Gap is sorted!

Shareguard
Thanks for your thoughts.
It seems to me from what you say that Charts are good for "comfort" when position taking but equally they should be considered when initial ideas so generated are not fulfilled.
I can understand how they might trap the unwary into a false sense of security.

Shareguard
So what you are really saying is that in the case of Scancell Charts are not relevant and no worth publicising?
I say this because I worry that some might be captivated by the Buy signals, yet somehow disregard the less bullish side, which seems to me to be somewhat disingenuous.

hasiba
Thankyou for your input. I have some sympathy with your comments.
I was interested in Chelsea7's take on the SCLP chart as it stands now. He did say just now that they are self fulfilling.
I wonder why he has not made any comment on them since the 100% buy he encouragingly publicised has changed (now about 3+p below the level he publicised their indicated bomb proof buy signal).
They clearly are not self fulfilling.

Chelsea7
if the charts are self fulfilling why are we at this level now? You were quite keen on publishing daily Chart information a few weeks ago. What do you glean from the Scancell chart now? It seems that things have changed a bit?
What is your considered view on the Chart now?

Well done Miavoce
The Last Leg rather than the Last Straw hehe.
Good day all! :-)

hasiba
Certainly not adding more to the tweet than meets the eye, but it's the sort of "news" that can be beneficial to a share price (particularly with the retweet).
Maybe rather than news it might be considered a Catalyst?
We'll find out on Monday.... :-)
Cynical? Maybe.
Market aware? certainly.
Thanks again.

hasiba
Great find, thanks.

Bermufashorts
Simply excellent find . Many thanks for posting!

"You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time".
A little like vaccinations at the moment?
Limited supply much greater demand.
Maybe take a realistic scientifically supportable view and go forward and vaccinate more of the people to spread the available supply maybe a little thinner but at least more of the people get some immunity?
That seems pretty reasonable to me.
Let us hope it is ultimately shown to have been a good idea.
Like many things only time will tell.
AIMO

Chelsea11
I'm afraid the confusion is all yours, so rather than let this get past the point of tedium it has already reached, I'll just say that I stand by my first post at 12.07 and wish you a great weekend.
thanks for your interest.

Chelsea11
I actually haven't changed my stance from my original post but I'm pleased you think I have! It is good that you believe I didn't think investors would arrive when news was announced or expected. That is the time I wrote I expected new investors to join and push the Share price north as they patently haven't done since 20p. Glad we can continue forward feeling we have agreed. Have a great weekend.

Raypointer
Thanks for your 18.23 and if you read my first post at 12.07 you'll see that you agree with what I was saying. I think that confusion set in with the ensuing replies
Good to see we agree
Have a good weekend.

Chelsea11
Of course new money could arrive any time, but it's a question of degree an sustainability of the amount.
I have carefully and realistically shown how since 2nd October there have been insufficient (net) funds arriving to revisit 20p. That's quite a long time, so what is the market (New Money) looking for?
Your theory that any amount of money could arrive any time is OK, your opinion.
My opinion is that it would have to be a hell of a lot of new money, and so to attract that money what would have to be offered?
So for the last nearly three months there has been insufficient inward flow to achive that significant (and by definition) share price moving investment. So to attract it I believe there will have to be something very exciting announced or anticipated.
I have not moved my position one jot. I still believe that.
Now what would be a very interesting scenario would be if I said to you that I believe Vulpes and Redmile will take out half their investment by June this year.
That is no more supportable than your contention that there could be a massive influx of money any time (and if) your theory didn't move the SP north to any significant degree) the amount brought in would be irrelevant.
So basically I remain as I stated at the start if we look at things that are likely (rather than not so likely) I believe that News (or the expectation of it) will move the Share price North rather than an investor who simply buys in because he/she likes us. Even if that were to happen, why would they do it? because they expect good news .... however far out on the horizon that might be.
So to conclude, News (either announced or expected) is IMO the catalyst for a resurgence in the Share price. it's what the market moves on.
I don't think I've changed my stance or made a U Turn as you put it.
Hope that clarifies.

Chelsea11
Sorry, I did miss your last point about you not having mentioned the Share price.
My original point (it seems so long ago now), was that the Share price doesn't suggest there are more buyers than sellers since 20p.
Since that was my point what is the point you are trying to make? I worry you are missing the principle of my original post.
So far since December that amount of new money has been insufficient to sustain the Shareprice at or near 20p. maybe more money will arrive, but I would be surprised if it wasn't connected with or in the expectation of News. If the expectation isn't fulfilled there will be another drift after the hypothetical new money arrives; IMO until the news does arrive. As far as I'm concerned the Share price indicates the amount of -net- "New Money" arriving.

Chelsea11
New Money is either from existing Investors/Traders or completly uninvested new buyers.
It is potentially quite possible that someone might come along and invest by buying millions and millions of shares, without any news being forthcoming.
I guess little green men could arrive and make an offer too... BUT
From what we've seen since the SP hit 20p it seems unlikely that the mystery buyer could do that. Obviously not impossible, but AS A GENERALITY it seems unlikely that without any form or expectation of news major buyers have resisted so far. There are times when buyers may appear for technical reasons and that might happen but I still consider that for a sustained upward movement news will be needed. Please don't think I don't keep in mind the "Left Field" possibilities, but one of the Scancell Board mentioned that area ..... which at the time was a rather unhelpful idea.
Let's hope that a new Investor comes along before any Data is released by Scancell and they have enough money to singlehandedly move the Share price to 25p, But i'm not holding my breath.... However an announcement of Covidity in trials will be a major catalyst IMO!

RayPointer
the catalyst for an upturn in the Shareprice is no different for a trader or a longterm investor.
I was looking at the market as a whole, and my suggestion is that the shareprice has fallen and there will need to be a "news" catalyst to create renewed interest for a share price improvement.If the shareprice has retreated from recent highs in the final analysis it is because there is insufficient buying interest to move the Share price higher.
I find it remarkable that three posters have taken issue.
Please, what is the relevance of whether people are traders or investors? Traders have stayed out as have investors. What is the most likely motivant for the next significant upward movement other than news (or the expectation of such)??