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Chelsea11
i take your point regarding the vax in various stages of trials but I don't subscribe to the view that anyone ids partivularly fortunate just yet.
The pandemic is (for the moment) under control in our cossetted little island. that is good.
It's the parts of the World that aren't under control which are the potential problem for us.
Until there is a rollout of vax GLOBALLY (which slhould be done NOW and FOC to those countries who cannot afford to pay) I don't think we should be taking anything for granted.
AIMO

Thanks Bermuda,
It does raise some questions. I wonder whether the current Indian situation might focus some strategic thinking.
The issues raised are ones that I think I'll look into further. There's certainly a need to harmonise production and distribution.
Thanks again.

WeTookPelham
As you wrote,
"And 2nd gen vaccines may not have the same constraints as 1st gen RE pricing, truth is no one knows yet."
Quite, but you also mentioned,
"Also isn't a lot of astra vaccines going out of date? I.e. somewhat of a surplus? Poor logistical planning perhaps."
The first point is secondary to your first in my opinioin.
Why?
if your second point is correct then poor logistics, or maybe insufficient donations of vax to areas where the option to pay hardly exists. I don't purport to understand which Global developing locations are being supplied and at what cost, but I do wonder whether vax are being shipped FOC to places where they are needed, IE EVERYWHERE.
if they are not being shipped and injected how does the world expect to beat Coronavirus? My original point highlighting India was that if the infection rate there (and heaven knows where else in the world cpomparable or even worse levels are multiplying) do we not run the risk of being able simply to be unable to cope with the fallout from the most severe infections?
We in the UK seem to be sitting back and thinking that everything's under control. Why? because we've got a high rate of vaccinations administered.
Is that a good reason for complacency?
I don't think so.
Hence my comments about not being too woried about the Scancell SP in the future. india has shown me incredibly graphically that what we achieve here is almost irrelevant. we need the world to be vaccinated. It sadly becomes a mathematical problem which when considered in hard number terms become somewhat disturbing in that I don't believe the logistics of an attempt to vaccinate the population of the Globe can be easaily understood, or maybe even supplied? How many years to complete?
There's not much point in having a shareholding worth millions if you live in fear of your life.
I am surprised that Scancell have not released any information on Covidity's procession to trial. Maybe eveything's fine, maybe not (for whatever reason).
What I do want to see is progress (from whatever source and wherever it's based) on a vax that will control the (likelihood) mutating virus).
That's why I say I don't care whether we as shareholders get our massive payouts from Scancell. I hope we do, but I think that at the moment I'd prefer to see provision of protection for all rather than a very clever vaccine that looks after a few who have the money to pay or have it provided for them.
In the long term I believe that to be a very short sighted policy.
Looking now at the first quote I put up here.
What do we think about the seizure (with the owners' permission of course) of Global Coronavirus IP by governments to allow for the mass vaccination of the world as well as the "Nationalisation" of associated manufacturing plant??
The sacrifice of some for the greater good?
Sounds far fetched doesn't it?
AIMO

Crumbs
I think that any success that Scancell has will now have to be shared.
The volume Global requirements are so great and pressing that no one Company can even consider having a monopoly, and any company finding the Holy Grail will need to accept that "At Cost" is going to be a major consideration.
When I say At Cost, I mean at cost.
Times are rapidly changing here.
AIMO

It strikes me that the Global Pandemic REQUIRES a rollout of Vax NOW.
That is not just to the rich countries that can afford to bid up the price, but what about those countries who cannot "jump the Queue"?
As investors we talk about the science as if there is no real urgency.
Without wishing to appear controversial if the epidempic is allowed to get further out of control we may not need to worry about what the Share Price of Scancell will be in X months time. Mutations of the virus may make the decision for us as to when Commercialisation of Covidity or any derivative takes place.
it seems to me that we are in a rather important race where money is rapidly becoming a factor that is increasingly irrelevant compared to the human costs.
I want to see Covid controlled and to be honest if Scancell don't provide the answer I really don't care any more.
Does this make me a Doomster?

Ray Pointer
I doubt there's much fear of that LOL.
But then..... :-)

Chelsea7
Haha, great idea.
Thankyou.

Chelsea7
"problem being numbers vary dependant on source of data"
In which case the numbers on the Africa search are as valid as those published for India, so the data (such as it is) is freely available. :-)

There's plenty more under search,
"african coronavirus stats"

https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/regions/africa/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1170530/coronavirus-deaths-in-africa/

RayPointer
Wholeheartedly endorse your observation about the reason for Prof Durrant's attendance at conferences.

LochinvarLass
I like your idea of setting sights towards hearing more by end of H1 rather than setting targets for information before that timeline. To me it works that it would be a plus to hear before rather than being disappointed should earlier ideas not be met. The expectations for news from Scancell have been far too optimistic for so long it has become a bit of a joke, but sadly a bad one. Please let's not have another disappointment in timelines that themselves have not been put forward by Scancell themselves.
AIMO

Seems to me it's simply a waiting game. Invest and wait, and wait and wait.
I hope that the news (when and if it comes) will be good.
Maybe there will be some aspects that are not so good.
Hope we don't get all the news in one go.
I would really like every aspect of the news to be well advanced and ready for deals but that might be a little fanciful.
As LL says end H1 gives us about ten weeks before we should get too worried.
So as ever with Scancell.... let us wait and see.
AIMO

Crumbs
i hope they didn't have the money because if they did maybe at least one of the dilutive cash rasings could have been avoided.

I think there was discussion about spinning out Moditope a long time ago and a previous chairman had said that it was decided against.
Might be wrong though.

Chelsea7 an aide memoire,

"AB. Interesting posts from you, I was posting from midnight Thursday morning, and I asked a series of pertinent questions which nobody was able to add too, but this has blown up out of context again.

I think the best solution for now, is that I put you and Kashdog on filter for a few weeks and hopefully this will take the steam out of some rotten posts to read for somebody you just don|"t know. i wish you both all the luck with the share.

C7"

C7 PLEASE filter me as you said you had the other day!

Crumbs
You're right it has come back!
So does it mean that if the vax programme is completed Covid19 simply goes away?

Hypothesis ooops!