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I would say the chance of the Conservatives being in power this time next year is probably less than 10%. It would take a major political meltdown across all the other parties for me to change that view. I'm not going off the poll's, I'm just going off conversations I've had while out and about; Over the last couple of months I've not spoken to anyone who's said they're voting Conservative and someone I know who was a Conservative party member, previously volunteering to do leaflet drops, say they aren't voting Conservative this time around either.
Sunk cost fallacy!
2 shares both value at £1
One share you don't think will move, the other you believe will double. Which share would you put your money in? So why stick in a share with no upside potential just because you are scared of booking a loss, when you could be using that money elsewhere to make money.
Ok then. Let's put it this way. If you keep losing money on investments you'll end up with less money and potentially significantly less!
P&L Performance does not indicate liquidity (eg recognising a paper loss does not lead to bankruptcy) Cash flow is king. There is some correlation between P&L and cash flow, but your reference is wrong. recognising a loss on a P&L doesn't lead to bankruptcy.
Don't rest your case yet, Avocet. If investors only invested in perfect companies there wouldn't be a market. You've got to take chances sometimes and it's alright to be invested in a company that might not be performing as long as said performance improves. Selling and crystallising losses, if done repeatedly, is a sure fire way to bankruptcy. Maybe you should look for a bulletin board that doesn't permit any dissenting views.
Flec
''The Conservatives wont be in power next year''
that depends on the voters of the UK - should never underestimate how views can change and how quickly
Flec
''but Vodafone isn't a distressed company so any realistic bid would have to be much higher than £1.''
at least £2
Garonne, is it stupid to cling on to shares which you think have bad management and which are not performing. Yes it is. I rest my case.
You're very critical Avocet. Folks can say what they want about the company they're invested in. If they're p****d off at its performance, there's nothing wrong with saying so. BOD's and CEO's can be legitimately criticised when a company is not performing. You need to stop telling people to sell. It's not your business nor are you the board censor.
I get your drift but my point is some here are far too concerned about miniscule daily and weekly fluctuations.
If you believe in your investment here, stick with it, if you have re-evaluated and do t believe in it anymore, sell up. But don't stcik with it and then moan about it.
That should have said aveo, most financial advisors would, dam predictive text will have to disable it
Average, most Fi will advise you to be prepared to be invested in a share for around 5 years, what they can't tell you is which 5 years or what share, anyone that's been invested here over the last 5 years will have lost a lot of money and the problem is, we don't know for sure what the next 5 years will be like, it's all a bit of a gamble and that's upto everyone to decide for themselves
I was hoping it was active now as I was going to open one and put £5k in now before the new tax year.
Would of worked great for next year as I’m already topping up my sipp and isa limit so the extra isa would of been excellent.
This British ISA is nothing more than a marketing tool for the Government, and possibly fund managers once/if it's approved. The Conservatives wont be in power next year, hence the unnecessary consultation period meaning they don't care about it and it wont be them implementing it.
"If there is a serious bid for Vodafone I'd expect at least £1. I know others say this is too low but you have to be realistic"
I'd suggest that a £1 bid would be unrealistic, since there's no way in the World the BOD would accept such a low bid. If Vodafone was a distressed company it'd be a different matter, but Vodafone isn't a distressed company so any realistic bid would have to be much higher than £1.
Steve, no it doesn't mean you can put 25K into an ISA, at least not yet.
A consultation on how to design and implement the 'UK ISA' will run from 6 March 2024 to 6 June 2024. So expect some form of announcement early summer this year.
So does this mean I can put £25k a year into my isa or do I have to open a specific isa and put the £5k in that as well as my £20k into my shares isa?
Nationwide have agreed terms to buy Virgin Money for a 38% premium on the share price. If there is a serious bid for Vodafone I'd expect at least £1. I know others say this is too low but you have to be realistic. Post Brexit a lot of international investors are shunning the UK.
https://news.sky.com/story/nationwide-agrees-terms-for-2-9bn-takeover-of-virgin-money-13088922
Maybe we could start our own rumour.
Didn't somebody say recently that Elon Musk was trying to buy VOD to compliment his Starlink business!!
A few years Avocet! Lol. We could all be dead.
Get the violins out .
Garonne, you should be investing over years, not weeks or months. Switch off, don't look at the sp for a few years.
Or if you don't believe in your investment in vod anymore sell up.
Unfortunately, with no news or further"rumours" this is likely to drift back down. Such a disappointment after hope returned for many shareholders that they were about to retrieve their losses. There can't be many shareholders here who aren't underwater and dreaming of a change in fortune, which so far is proving elusive.
Mole_man. Most of my I.S.A. investment is pre I.S.A. shares that I have sold to buy back in to an I.S.A. to save divi tax, or from tax free cash from my pensions, so the 2x £20k per year has worked for me. If you have a decent pension, it can be a good idea to take the cash free lump sum & invest into an I.S.A. or 2! So the extra 5k might help. I don't think I will go over the 20k though next year, but who knows? good luck..
Imagine if you bought these shares in their prime 10 years ago. To think when they had just sold 45% of Verizon for £85 B. Now itself worth less than 20 (or around that). They really messed up there!
I have the opportunity to average down obviously and they plan to update us in May. I do think it maybe a tad undervalued with the book value now around 0.3 (according to finance sites) and I've seen somewhere the PE to be 2. I could obviously be wrong about them though!
Someone on this thread called it a value trap at 90p, what a genius they were!
On a lighter note, has anyone seen some of the innovative things they seem to be doing at MWC? mostly on YouTube and on their website too.
https://www.vodafone.com/news/campaigns-events/mobile-world-congress-mwc
We need to be patient, if Vod does not go completely broke it will be worth quite a lot more. Market sentiment is terrible right now except US stock market but it seems the optimism there is mostly fueled by the AI bubble