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I dont think anyone should be holding out for an RNS this week. Its Semana Santa (Holy Week). Government will be closed and would put money that Scott is on his jollies.
An island of solgold wealth! We could use Quady as a gargoyle to keep out trolls like StackLow
Quady it was a typo. Net Migration year ending June 2022 was 745,000. Net Migration year ending June 2023 was 672,000.
Again if 606,000 is correct it is the absolute figure not the net figure. So should be compared to the figure of over a million.
Indeed Jezzo - Lord of the Flies Deux.
Damers "Once we have cashed out, I suggest we all sail off to Craggy Island where we can live in complete peace & harmony, away from this nation as it is completely Fcuked."
Now that WOULD be interesting !
First of all Muslims and Christians live peacefully together in Israel. So not a problem.
Next if you took someone in you would learn a lot.
A “lodger” hey Quady 😜
Always had my suspicions….
I’ve got five bedrooms going spare Quady but I’d still ever give refuge to an immigrant. They have no business being here, our culture and morals are completely different to theirs
Somehow we are expected to adapt to them as they are unwilling to integrate into our ways
Also my home is a Christian home; Muslims wouldn’t want to share a space with me
You raise a good point Covgaz, we should only have conversations like this from 16.30 Friday night till 7.00 am Monday morning when RNS's can appear.
C'mon Monte , it's Sunday , markets are closed.
My house isn't as big as yours slug.
No I haven't taken in any immigrants, but have taken in homeless people in the past and have a lodger who lodges with me at the moment, otherwise he would be homeless.
Most crime is drug related in this country, accounts for over 50 % of all crimes.
Look it up use any stats.
Pbow net migration was 745,000 in 2023, you even said that on your original post, not 2022.
Plus figure for students was 606,000.
We are talking about less than 50,000 a year on boat crossings. The bit everyone is cross about.
Possibly the one who is smart enough and big enough to stop responding to the nonsense off topic and return the board back to what it should be.
That would mean being the bigger man, controlling your ego and considering others.
They are so busy trying to show how smart they are ,yet they don't even know the basics.
1984 Investor thats like the worst point you can make. Qatars population is 2.688 million of which about 300k are Qatari.
Well for a start they aren't correct because its the wrong year.
In the year you are talking about when 750,000 came that was 2022 and was net. If you are going to use net figures then you have to use it for students which you arent. It may have been 600k (I cant remember but I think that is overstated) but that is out of almost 1.2 million not 750,000.
You are talking about fake news yet you are distorting figures as above.
Again 129,000 graduate visas were issued in 2023 - they are visas that only students in the UK can apply for. On top of that there are work visas (including in care roles). So where you have conjured up 2000 from is anyone's guess.
We dont get many foreign doctors, scientists and engineers from people who study at UK universities. Yes we import ready qualified ones in their droves. But they dont compensate for the rest that come and are destroying the nation.
Japan has low immigration.
Migration is all about evolution. There has been migration since humans moved out of Africa. The main difference now is the political indoctrination of peoples in different countries, depending on if the country is governed by democratic, autocratic or dictatorship.
Given enough time there might be a hibrid system that will develop, as we don’t have a perfect system at the moment.
Compounding the issue we have with immigration and our inept leaders, is the drop in productivity of our workforce.
I was discussing this subject with another parent today, while watching the mighty youngsters @ Bowden Rugby Club this morning.
The gentlemen in question is a surgeon working for the NHS. Once the clock strikes 5 the trainee surgeons in theatre simply leave mid-operation as its clocking off time!
On many occasions the operating team are left standing as there’s no patient. Why – because the porter is having a break & nobody else is allowed to bring the patient in!!
He suggests that 10 years ago he was carrying out circa 5 operations a day – now 1 and maybe 2 at best.
I have a parallel issue in the industry I work in. Only on Friday I told an employee to ‘get a shift on’ – he just looked at me as if I was from another planet. I did of course want to smash his head against the nearest rock, but I showed my usual self-restraint 😉.
Let’s just hold tight and await the sale of Solgold. Once we have cashed out, I suggest we all sail off to Craggy Island where we can live in complete peace & harmony, away from this nation as it is completely Fcuked.
“Show me a country with low immigration and I will show you a poor country”
Qatar. 0.8 migrants per 1000 population and fifth per head of capita gdp at $114,648
It's not immigration folks, it's drugs! Quady, you must be a wind up merchant. Cannabis has gone from class C to class B, by the way.
A fair system that gives everyone what they want would be if those people who want to allow immigrants into our country offer them a place in their home and pay for them
You taking any in Quady? Or do you just want to spend our £s and ruin our lifestyles?
Pbow my figures are correct everyone talks about net migration.
Most of the people leaving are Students that want to return home.
There were stories of people using universities to come here.
Guess what Fake news that accounted for no more than 2,000 people and believed by the nutters as being overrun.
That today has almost ended.
The government are at this moment discussing the family visa, so we await to see the results.
Now last bit about students that remain.
Where do you think we get a large percentage of engineers, Doctors and Scientist's from.
From these people who create many new jobs.
Show me a country with low immigration and I will show you a poor country.
Quady your figures are wrong.
In the year ending June 2023 1,180,000 people came to the UK. At the same time 508,000 left giving a net figure of 672,000.
In the year ending June 2023 it was a net figure of 745,000 which I assume you are talking about.
As to the students..... its a back door to live in the UK. I work in the Middle East and I know numerous people using this purely as they state "to get a passport". They arent going to Cambridge, they are going to East London University, or event Wigan and Leigh College. Its an absolute con and the useless government does nothing about it. In year ending 2023, 129,000 graduate visas were issued - that's 129,000 people who will not be leaving the UK, and compares to the 210,000 visas issued in 2020 which is when they will probably have started their course.
The family visa is also abused. You can bring your family over if you have a certain amount of money in the bank. Certain communities in the UK pool their money to meet the threshold to allow for someone to bring their wife (who will most likely also be their cousin) over. They will then move the money to the next person. Its a racket. Again I personally know people who have done this.
I split my time with work 50/50 between Central London and the North… and I can vouch for the effect, massive, unquestioned immigration has had on London.. Is simply unrecognisable from the city it was just 15 years ago.
The huge numbers of Romanian and Albanian pick pocket gangs operating around Oxford St and King’s Cross areas continue unabated. That particular problem only really got looked at when they created a tent city closer to wealthy areas like Kensington…
Areas like Tower hamlets that surround Canary Wharf, are bursting at the seems with immigrants and their ballooning families all living on benefits.
And now every 2 weeks central London becomes a no go zone for any Jewish residents, and most other residents as it’s now taken over by Middle Eastern protesters waving Palestinian flags, shouting race hate, that goes unquestioned by the met.
London is now totally different to most peoples view, or recollection if they know it from their past visits.. and that is down to uncontrolled mass immigration, but mostly down to a refusal to actually integrate and assimilate in to western life and adhere to western values.. That is something that should be enforced without sympathy or questions.
I agree with you Ortherncopper,
I have a personal interest in what you said regarding them getting free everything, 20 years ago I emigrated to Australia, I didn't have a degree or a profession that was on the list so I had to go as self employed. In order to do this I moved from Yorkshire to Norfolk and started my own business with a very small amount of money, it took me ten years to make the business big enough to be worth buying out and having enough turnover and cash at bank to qualify for a visa.
Ten years:
A proven ability to make money and not be a burden, in fact a proven ability to be an asset to the country.
They are the kind of people we want and need, self starters who come with skills and cash.
Not some wet back who's chucked his identity in the English Channel making it hard to send him home or find out he is murderer or/and ra pist, criminal etc.