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Bugg*r!! At leat they are $2.49 each though and look to be selling like hotcakes!
https://roselawgroupreporter.com/2021/03/fda-approves-anti-viral-face-mask-that-kills-covid/
https://wellbefore.com/products/respokare-anti-viral-mask
That link says they are tested against 'human coronavirus 229E'.
No mention of the sars_cov_2 cert.
Doesn't seem to be stopping them selling though.
They were smart enough to put a logo on it though. Duh! How did our scientists mist that!
If we're going to keep using Jaws quotes, then maybe....
"Well, this is not a boat accident! And it wasn't any propeller, and it wasn't any coral reef, and it wasn't Jack the Ripper! It was crap management!"
Sharkie likes his jaws quotes.
He’s gone very quiet
May be he smelt the coffee
I find their marketing just as poor as Pro-Larva’s. The article was published on 4th of March. We had plenty of such articles, but still waiting on our sales figures and contracts. Pro-Larva showed as sold out on Amazon and other retailers listed on, but we are still “assuming” there’s no sales. Considering that articles were published to promote the virus killing Pro-Larva competitor since August 2020, I would have thought they would already be promoted worldwide. Yet, this this the first most of us hear of it.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.menshealth.com/health/amp33521372/coronavirus-mask-respokare-niosh-n95-respirator-doctor-review/
Nina, they were not sold out on Amazon, when it first appeared it came up saying unavailable. If I remember correctly it took a few weeks before it changed and you could buy them. Unfortunately It resides in a sea off cheap imported masks and F M London do not say why you would pay extra for the Pro larva mask so it wont sell let alone sell out. RMS have stated they have not reordered (I just realised maybe that was the sales update they were promising) so that confirms not sold out.
The balance of what we know doesn't look good either.
virionmask did sell out however he didn't reorder saying he wanted to move on for personal reasons. He was talking to someone in India but I guess that didn't work out either. When Torr mentioned he had interest from India he was trashed by a couple of people on LSE so he stopped posting. Torr if you still read this can you update us.
4 Medicals was showing as sold out for a while but this company looks like a start up and doesn't have much else to sell but I guess they must have re ordered
Magnesium I don't think have sold many. The pictures on their site were not good and not much better now, description is ok but could be better and there is a tab for clinical data which is blank, which would not help inspire confidence of potential buyers. They tried marketing on Twitter but these guys seem pretty quiet now.
Numed is new distributor and by far the best. I guess marketing to its existing base which is at least the right type of client but P2F need 100 of distributors like these guys to have any chance in this sector.
In his Zak interview DrC said "we let these guys do the selling", these guys simply are not enough to make any headway. We are left assume that is all P2F have because RMS announced Numed, if they had others why wouldn't they announce them too?
I take it Bannatyne never placed an order? I guess a lot of the sales so far have come from shareholders. Virionmask had a 30% sale at the end to clear out the remaining stock if I remember correctly, Torr was always posting on here to shift the last of his masks.
I thought it was Monday ready for the big bounce Sharebel promised was coming.
As he stated premium buying all this week insiders loading up its going back to new highs!!!!
Then I woke up
Herbie, I’ve applied for a post man job around your area. I hear it comes with good perks lol. Leave the bb alone and spend some time with your family. Surely even you have a day off.
Says poorinvestsor -with 187 posts on RMS alone in the past 30 days!! Six a day!
Jezabelend, I am forced to post, by planks, to defend my investment. If planks stopped posting, I would have a lot less posts.
On thin I did wonder about that mask; It sounded to work quite a bit like ours with copper and zinc in it. If they got FDA approval I don't see why we couldn't?
That could shift the SP up maybe?
I’ll buy some more in the morning Poorinvester
The only way is up right.
Callitt - I see this as a foregone conclusion for P2F Prolarva to get FDA approval then considering that this company’s masks are not TYPE 11R surgical/medical grade. We also have the CE mark which they don’t mention so that co couldn’t sell in U.K. or Europe eg or any other country who relies on that certification as a bench of quality. This company seems to be simply targeting US public market not medical, surgical or industry. I think we sit head and shoulders above this!
IMHO DYOR GLA
Time to go long now Herbie, short days are over.
Hi Sharebel.
You might be right. It may well be a forgone conclusion.
IMHO I still think if we get the RNS saying we have FDA approval it will be a positive thing for the SP. I'm not sure if all investors have priced this in at current levels?
I think the people buying that mask could well buy ours instead if it was available in the US. It does seem to indicate some demand for an antiviral mask.
We cost less than theirs and have actually tested our masks against the sars_cov_2 virus and as you say have the CE mark etc..
GLA DYOR
@unitedguy.
Some great points made in your reply. One that stands out for me is the fact that Pro-Larva resides in a sea of cheap imported masks. This leads me to believe the statement by the BOD in the latest RNS that the price and the backlog of stock already available to NHS could prove difficult to sell our mask.
I don’t know about you, but observing people’s behaviour in public places I feel that they only wear a mask because they have to. The disposable ones that are meant to be changed every 2 hours are being used as reusable ones (people are crunching them up in their pockets and putting them back on throughout the day)
I am hoping that NHS and other private medical institutions will see sense and invest in better PPE once the current stock needs replacing.
Unfortunately every business is putting costs before safety at the moment. This is confirmed when managers try to keep quiet about an outbreak of covid in their hospitality establishments to avoid closing down even for 2 days (my sister works in a restaurant where this happened this week).
Short term this is very frustrating, but I still believe that long term RMS will be a great investment. I would personally prefer to see them licence the antiviral material rather then masks, but what do I know?!
@callit.
May I also add that Pro-Larva has a higher filtration capacity than the American competitor alongside being cheaper. Theirs have tested 95% compared to over 98% for Pro-Larva.
Callit - agree of course USA FDA approval should increase the SP absolutely - what I meant was if that US/HK company can get it then there should be no barrier to P2F getting it too as ours is better way better imho and is also designed for surgical/medical professional use which the other isn’t it seems.
IMHO DYOR GLA
Nina think your spot on , this will not turn around in the short term mainly down to pricing and lack of exposure . FDA will take ages even for emergency clearance you only have to look at Belluscura .
Longer term 12 months i still believe the tech behind the product will give us a profit with potentially new products . That's if the board actually use their funds wisely on decent marketing
GLA
It's time for a bit of realism folks! Mask users do not care whether it stops the virus, or kills it. It's academic and that is why it hasn't caught on these past months as a product. The posts here are really desperate , suggesting market strategies, board changes, advertising etc. The concept is a dead duck and the longer it takes you guys to accept that, the more money you will lose. I don't mean to be insensitive to those who are under water, but for goodness' sake don't drown!
Jezebel, the careless attitude people have is what’s leading to increased numbers of cases week by week, but this concept is not a dead duck. More like a beautiful swan still growing. :)
I don’t blame the NHS and other businesses for wanting to use what they have purchased already for now (budget control) but I strongly believe they will soon review their purchase options and look at safer PPE going forward. Just like us invested here, everyone I have spoken to about this mask has been amazed by the concept. This baby will grow, but needs some more time and care. :)
I think Dr Cave is commissioning three masts in Liverpool for this bigger boat that’s supposed to be launched. Just hope old Trevor is not the one flinging the champagne bottle and we have a new CEO to bless the boat and steer it in the right direction. Steer a heading of due north please helmsman, make haste, winter is around the corner:)
Exactly Nina just as eg Heathrow Airport’s reevaluating theirs re what’s now available- normal PPE can’t cut the mustard or kill Covid - employers should absolutely be looking to get the very best available that actually merits the user wearing them not simply going through the motions. P2F masks kill Covid dead on contact and other nasty viruses too. Done. Employers have a duty of care and buying Prolarva masks means they are literally getting the world’s very best and safest masks for their staff and customers. That is an important separation between cheap Chinese mass production crap V patented innovative Covid killing medical grade masks. It shows their staff they really care if they have to make them wear masks each shift. It surely would inspire confidence too to their customers.
IMHO DYOR GLA