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Be a massive bounce on this very soon, star performer and similar dividend in later summer, re investment time to come and ftse at an all time high, whats not to love and a bargain under a fiver is an absolute steal
Good article trek - music to my ears
Oh deer
Roger moore increases it to 8.50
"Berenberg cuts Phoenix Group price target to 650 (739) pence - 'buy'"
‘ On Friday, RBC Capital Markets adjusted its outlook on Phoenix Group Holdings PLC, a leading UK life insurance company. The firm increased the price target on the company's shares to GBP6.15, up from the previous target of GBP6.00, while reiterating an Outperform rating.
The revision came after Phoenix Group's stock exhibited a notable underperformance compared to its sector and the broader market. Year-to-date, the company's total share returns were down by 7%, while the UK life sector and the FTSE 100 index both saw gains of 11%. Despite this underperformance, RBC Capital noted that Phoenix Group now trades at a fiscal year 2025 dividend yield of 11.6%, which is not only near the lowest it has been in the past five years but also higher than the average yield of its peers, which stands at 9.6%.
The analyst from RBC Capital highlighted that the attractive dividend yield has led some investors to question the company's performance. Addressing these concerns, the analyst underscored Phoenix Group's positive attributes, including its improving cash generation, earnings, and leverage ratio. The firm emphasized that the company's dividend is sustainably covered, a fact that they believe is not currently reflected in the stock's valuation.
Phoenix Group's commitment to maintaining a solid dividend payout appears to be a key factor in RBC Capital's positive stance. The analyst's comments suggest confidence in the company's financial health and its capability to continue rewarding shareholders, despite the recent underperformance in its share price.’
https://au.investing.com/news/company-news/rbc-capital-raises-phoenix-group-stock-target-maintains-outperform-93CH-3209138
Australian link.
Trek
Ps thanks guys
They do not need to even ban it. All that is required is that stock lending becomes to expensive . I.E charge the borrowers a higher fee. What actually stinks inmho is that most people who invest into pension pots would be appalled if they realise that the very same institutions loan their invesments out to unscrupalous people who afre destroying decent companioes that they afre working for inmho
I bet they dont go after Bae or RR.
Question is what will this lot go after next.
Inmv a great investment and fully understood by the investment community of what is left of hamlet of uk . the square millimetre . true brits inmho.
Greygeorge, see you're annoying posters on this Board now as well as on DEC board !! I also think Trek Madone contributes positively to the Boards, a simple review of his posts is enough 'proof' for us that he is genuine and you don't have to read his posts if you don't want to !!.
What 'proof' do you have that he's not genuine ?!!
Inmv the company is in a sound place, but is caught into a trap of so called institutions together with larger players who short uk stocks such as this. Maybe if the government could actually addrese this and then UKplc will progress going forward.
Some one posted a valid point either on here or advfn which suggested that dividends should be paid quarterly. Excellent suggestion inmo so maybe the bod will look at this going forward. It will certainly sort the spiv brigade out inmho
'...My experience of TM is that he is genuine and does try to help other investors...'
Really ? Care to share some examples of his help ? What proof do you have that he's genuine ?
GG
I don't post much these days but do circulate reading the boards, where I have or may acquire an interest.
You have called Trek a liar on a public bulletin board which isn't a very good look and reading back over this spat, without foundation. You should apologise for over stepping the mark of decency.
My experience of TM is that he is genuine and does try to help other investors. I remember his contributions to the DDDD board some years ago, which were always positive.
Trek, you don't need me to tell you how to suck eggs, but I'd suggest you gracefully move on.
Apologies to the PHNX investors for this interruption.
Normal service will resume shortly :)
Trek Baloney, just one more thing - in the past few days, you've made the followiing statements about your reasoning for selling PHNX. You've gone from selling 'some' to 'a load' in order to build a position in TRR, or was it a forced trade brought about by the xd, broker downgrades, inflation outlook, the Middle East situation, so is it some of those, all of those, or none of those ? Hard to keep up with your shifting storyline.
'...“ I sold some yesterday. Only because I found TRR and needed some funds to build a position there. Still got majority in here though.‘...'
'...But also took a load out at around 5:56 To buy TRR as posted before...'
'...I have been fortunate trading this as it was a ‘forced trade’ brought about by the xd, broker downgrades, Fed hawkishness and the ME conflict. All at once!. An axiomatic trading opportunity when you rationalise it, so nothing clever really....'
Trek baloney, you don't even have the intelligence to see how ridiculous a statement like '...The stop was set here after the buy when the SP had gone up. To cover my position. Pretty obvious really!...' actually is. There is no such thing as a stop in this context, as everyone but you seems to know. But then, you say capitol, everyone else says capital. Lol.
Trek Baloney, don't misunderstand me, I'm not bashing you, I have no opinion on your 'wins' or 'losses', I'm outing you as a fantasist, a liar.
Don’t get the obsession GG. Obviuosly you are rattled by my performance on DEC! Pssd on your chips there too many times! Lol!
The stop was set here after the buy when the SP had gone up. To cover my position. Pretty obvious really!
I have been fortunate trading this as it was a ‘forced trade’ brought about by the xd, broker downgrades, Fed hawkishness and the ME conflict. All at once!. An axiomatic trading opportunity when you rationalise it, so nothing clever really.
Some investors act on that data and others stick it out which is fine. I just happen to be an active investor..
At times of high volatility I do hold some and trade some like at DEC which has obviously upset you. I did well here when Liz Trust had her budget and I posted my views to hopefully help folk consider selling and buying back cheaper. Which I did throwing off loads of cash over those few days.
Occasionally you get a winner like this. Makes up for the duffers and PHNX has been good to me just like DEC and HE1 has of late.
Now I am back in here as of Friday for hopefully another leg up next week and I may add to my position if I have any change after adding to MNG and HEX.
I won’t be jumping in here though as sub 450 is as likely as 500p on the chart. So I will average in and may again sell some spikes and recycle to try and get a good base to hold from so as to maximise the yield ahead of September.
Whilst this has more yield (50/50) MNG is still a play (2/3 1/3 divi) as it should have more capitol (lol) gain.
But then for you it’s easy just bashing from the sidelines with all your hindsight and not making any advance calls. And you note how I call what I execute in advance!
And as I say I only trade a stock or trade and hold a stock that I intend to hold. That takes the pressure off!
Oh by the way you missed out trailing orders from below.
Hope they are paying you overtime for the weekend mate or is it just your troll infatuation!
Buy some HEX with your overtime!
Now kindly let’s leave this BB alone!
Usual caveats
Trek
Here you go, Trek Baloney, a simple explainer for you. Might help in your future BS posts.
Limit Order:
A limit order is an instruction to buy or sell a security (such as shares) at a specific price or better.
When you place a limit order, it will only execute if the market price reaches the pre-defined level.
If the price does not reach the specified level, the order remains pending and will not be filled1.
Types of Limit Orders:
Buy Limit Order: This order allows you to buy a share at a price set by you. It triggers when the offer price drops to or below your specified price.
Sell Limit Order: With this order, you can sell an existing shareholding at a price set by you. It triggers when the bid price rises to or above your specified price2.
Stop Loss Order:
A stop loss order is another type of order used to manage risk.
When you set a stop loss order, it triggers a sale of your existing shares if the bid price falls to or below a specific price (the stop price) that you’ve chosen.
This helps protect your investment by minimizing losses in case the share price declines after you’ve purchased it2
'...GG the stop was set higher than the average buy. Doh...'
You see, Trek Baloney, there is no such thing as a 'stop' order to set a share sale at a pre-determined higher price. Not in ii, not in HL, not in any UK retail investment brokerage. Stop orders are designed to kick in to limit losses. Now, you could place a 'limit' order to lock in a profit on sale if a share hits a certain price. Which you'd know, if you actually traded shares. It's a way for people to protect their capitAl.
Next stops will be set on Monday as looks like may have another relief rally following ME. Well let’s hope so!
Trek
GG the stop was set higher than the average buy. Doh. They actually went up 8-10p that day from memory. My stop was set higher than my average. It’s no wonder you don’t make any money!
And they have gone back in again and the stop is set higher than my average again. Stops work well where there is a tight spread and liquidity. So do buy orders.
Got any HEX yet… I am trying to help you if you get past your ‘acidity’. Folk spend ages looking for an opportunity like that.
Good luck and apologies to the PHNX BB.
Usual caveats
Trek
Trek Baloney, I guess you were too busy today to answer this, so I'll just post it here for you, you know, for when you can spare the time to share your genius :
'...I bought PHNX, just a few a 479 average and posted a stop. ..'
'...when I looked all my PHNX shares had been sold and I nearly made £400!..'
Trek Baloney, you truly are an investing genius ! You hit your stop loss, the shares got sold, and yet you still made money ? C'mon, share your secret. How'd you do it ?
Just back home and can’t believe PHNX finished up! Even had a buy at under 476 filled today and obviously the ones above went through.
Let’s hope it’s a recovery now from the divi blues and the broker recs with a steady return to +500p.
Trust me I much prefer to just hold!
Don’t think this has been posted here. I don’t subscribe to the views but the finance breakdown chart is quite good.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-group-holdings-plcs-dividend-110748276.html
Usual caveats
Trek