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Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever', 'better else where' or a 'dire share',
On the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 362 = 746
Lloy 1905 @ 35.5 = 676
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 181 = 606
Lloy 1553 @ 35.5 = 551
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 137 = 526
Lloy 1512 @ 35.5 = 537
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 131 = 627
Lloy 1504 @ 35.5 = 534
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2900 = £1082
Lloy 1704 @ 35.5 = £605
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 26.3 = £1023
Lloy 3058 @ 35.5 = £1086
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 356 = £1146
Lloy 3367 @ 35.5 = £1195
This weeks observation - Markets rally as lockdown begins to be lifted
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 35.5 = £5325
A1
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share', on the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 305 = 628
Lloy 1905 @ 30.2 = 575
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 150 = 504
Lloy 1553 @ 30.2 = 469
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 111 = 426
Lloy 1512 @ 30.2 = 457
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 116 = 556
Lloy 1504 @ 30.2 = 454
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2810 = £1048
Lloy 1704 @ 30.2 = £515
In April 2020 Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 25.1 = £977
Lloy 3058 @ 30.2 = £924
In April 2020 TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 277 = £892
Lloy 3367 @ 30.2 = £1017
This weeks observation - Market shows early sign of recovery as lockdown starts to be lifted
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 30.2 = £4530
A1
RU the Sampsun 50 that has the ESL shares?If so says it all ready, back to the food bank dead boy.
I can’t get my head round these posters, that have no shares, but constantly knock the investments of others.
They all deny, but imo most are shorters , want the share lower to buy in or just in need of Psychiatric help.
Little has changed from my post of the 16th inst., simply why buy.By the way it is not a trading share currently imo,the graph declines to readily for me to do that.
Stay safe, and when in doubt just think what would a government consultant do?Lol only in GB.
The thing with lloyds at the moment its very volatile due to day traders its one of the highest daily traded shares currently so either you join the band wagon or you just sit back and wait for things to pan out.
Personally im just gonna keep topping up every time it dips .
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share', on the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 308 = 634
Lloy 1905 @ 28.5 = 540
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 148 = 496
Lloy 1553 @ 28.5 = 440
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 105 = 403
Lloy 1512 @ 28.5 = 430
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 105 = 503
Lloy 1504 @ 28.5 = 429
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2823 = £1053
Lloy 1704 @ 28.5 = £486
In April Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 25.4 = £988
Lloy 3058 @ 28.5 = £871
In April TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 282 = £908
Lloy 3367 @ 28.5 = £960
This weeks observation - Market bides time as lockdown starts to be lifted
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 28.5 = £4270
A1
A fantasy portfolio including Lloyds is only to make the other shares look good.When the presenter of the portfolio tried dipping his toe in the water for real he quickly became unstuck.
As for sitting on your hands as advice it has at least been stated a 100 times here before.
I will repeat where is this great faith in Lloyds coming from,in all the markets in all the world is this the best any decent investor can come up with.The value of Lloyds will go up hopefully but will be the laggard of the footsie as always.
Wise up, grow up and buy true value now when it exists, don`t hold on to a share that is still being run as if it the 18th Century and hasn`t changed since.
You need new and innovative thinking in a new era.Simple really, put the quills away.
Asper,
'A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.'
It's a cliché but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Anyone invested in those shares, including LLOY need to examine the concept of investing.
Sometimes the hardest thing as an investor is to 'sit on their hands ' and stay in cash or gold in situations like this. Not happy to say I sold out of LLOY at a 40% loss as we went into so called lockdown but potentially in a much stronger position now to take advantage of any reversal. My biggest gains from investing has been after the housing market crash of the 90s and the financial crisis of 2008.
Sometimes an investor forgets the concept of investing and makes the school boy error of falling in love with a company and then ignoring the fundamentals of the wider markets that have an adverse affect on values.
Yes things will turn but from my experience it is far better to catch on the way up. Forget the past trying to justify LLOY performance by making comparisons from 2016.
Lots of turbulence on the horizon, US figures, Q2 reports, inevitable profit warnings, job figures not forgetting the high risk of a second wave.
I agree when Lloyds start paying dividends the yield at these prices is so good , i will hold and hold
Thank you for your post
Gla
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share', on the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 297 = 612
Lloy 1905 @ 28.5 = 543
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 141 = 472
Lloy 1553 @ 28.5 = 443
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 104 = 399
Lloy 1512 @ 28.5 = 431
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 97.5 = 467
Lloy 1504 @ 28.5 = 429
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2743 = £1023
Lloy 1704 @ 28.5 = £486
Last month Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 23.8 = £926
Lloy 3058 @ 28.5 = £871
Last Saturday TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 250 = £805
Lloy 3367 @ 28.5 = £960
This weeks observation - as UK dives into recession - lockdown starts to be lifted
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 28.5 = £4275
A1
ASP, the UK has as much chance of a V shape recovery as the US - Zero. Even U is optimistic, so that leaves L.
You can always rely on BS from BOE - feel good factor to bolster consumer confidence.
The two weeks quarantine is for the rest of the year this would have a devastating impact on the UK economy crippling any chance of a V shape recovery
BofE Gov expects 'V' shape recovery
https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/v-shaped-recovery-predicted-bank-england-warns-worst-recession-300-years-first-official-outlook/192039
ERV, the financial economic compass is clear to me. Set the course to one's beliefs. Hope isn't a investment strategy - Cycles repeat and this time is no different.
Wids, all a bit like the Edward Lear limerick ... does anybody know we're going? Let's hope it's nice when we get there.
A1. I like your comparisons in the fantasy portfolio. Regrettably it proves that keeping cash and not investing at all is just as profitable, even more so now dividends are off the table. If the housing market tanks (not going to happen imo) and people decide shares are the best place for capital growth, then maybe the stock market will grow in real terms. In the meantime stay lucky.
"This weeks observation - BofE Gov expects 'V' shape recovery"
Recovery in what exactly?
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share', on the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 316 = 651
Lloy 1905 @ 31.3 = 596
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 148 = 496
Lloy 1553 @ 31.3 = 486
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 114 = 438
Lloy 1512 @ 31.3 = 473
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 105 = 503
Lloy 1504 @ 31.3 = 471
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2778 = £1036
Lloy 1704 @ 31.3 = £533
Last month Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 25.3 = £984
Lloy 3058 @ 31.3 = £957
Last Saturday TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 287 = £924
Lloy 3367 @ 31.3 = £1054
This weeks observation - BofE Gov expects 'V' shape recovery
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 31.3 = £4695
A1
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share', on the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 299 = 616
Lloy 1905 @ 31.7 = 604
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 140 = 468
Lloy 1553 @ 31.7 = 492
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 113 = 434
Lloy 1512 @ 31.7 = 479
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 103 = 493
Lloy 1504 @ 31.7 = 477
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2766 = £1032
Lloy 1704 @ 31.7 = £540
Last month Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 27.5 = £1070
Lloy 3058 @ 31.7 = £969
Last Saturday TheBoard asked that I add RollsRoyce -
On 25-4-20 £1000 bought 322 RR. & 3367 Lloy
Today's value
RR. 322 @ 313 = £1008
Lloy 3367 @ 31.7 = £1067
This weeks observation - results week for the banking sector, early signs of SP recovery
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 31.7 = £4755
A1
Of course you can, but will I answer?
Asperger 1.
Given the return of the PM possibly on Monday how do you feel the markets will react?
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share', on the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 309 = 636
Lloy 1905 @ 29.7 = 566
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 139 = 465
Lloy 1553 @ 29.7 = 474
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 105 = 403
Lloy 1512 @ 29.7 = 449
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 88.6 = 424
Lloy 1504 @ 29.7 = 447
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2655 = £990
Lloy 1704 @ 29.7 = £506
Earlier this month Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIR & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @ 28 = £1089
Lloy 3058 @ 29.7 = £908
This weeks observation - Imposed cancellation of bank divi's has had a devastating affect on the banking sector, small consolation to see Lloyd has faired better than RBS & Barc,
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 29.7 = £4455
A1
Asperger 1. Do we really need Real Deal,it does nothing for the quality of investor we need on this site.
Usual weekend update -
I started this fantasy portfolio in 2016 to challenge various posters perception that Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share', on the 8th Oct 2016 I invited WL/Newchurch to choose an alternative ftse 100 company so I could run a comparison
On 8th Oct 2016 - 1000 quid bought 206 BP. shares & 1905 Lloy shares
Today's value
BP. 206 @ 304 = 626
Lloy 1905 @ 30.5 = 581
In April 2017 Invest4life suggested I add Glencore -
On 22-4-17 - 1000 quid bought 335 Glen shares & 1553 Lloy shares
Today's value
Glen 335 @ 141 = 472
Lloy 1553 @ 30.5 = 474
In July 2017 Nucky suggested I add RBS -
On 12-7-17 1000 quid bought 384 RBS & 1512 Lloy
Today's value
RBS 384 @ 106 = 407
Lloy 1512 @ 30.5 = 461
In July 2017 Utrickytrees asked that I add BARC -
On 30-7-17 1000 quid bought 479 Barc & 1504 Lloy
Today's value
Barc 479 @ 90.7 = 434
Lloy 1504 @ 30.5 = 459
In Sept 2018 Motley Fool recommended Diageo over Lloyds
On 9-9-18 1000 quid bought 37.3 DGE & 1704 Lloy
DGE 37.3 @ 2711 = £1011
Lloy 1704 @ 30.5 = £520
Last Tuesday Theosus asked that I add Circassia -
On 14-4-20 £1000 bought 3891 CIS & 3058 Lloy
CIR 3891 @26.1 = £1016
Lloy 3058 @30.5 = £933
This weeks observation - Imposed cancellation of bank divi's had a devastating affect on the banking sector, small consolation to see Lloyd has faired better than RBS & Barc,
A very basic comparison that does no include divi yield, IMO those still suggesting Lloy is 'the worst share ever' or a 'dire share' seriously need to examine their concept of investing.
Real deal
30-3-20 I bought 15,000 Lloy @ 33.606 = £5079
Current value -
LLoy 15000 @ 30.5 = £4575
A1