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Can't help wondering how long it will be before the BBC and other media have scoured and scrapped up any information adding to the undoubted negative financial effects which are known over the Palestine issue.
Soon I expect the underdogs will be our 'bestiees' , we will be taking in countless, and shortages of most everything will be 'blamed' upon supply issues due to war in the Gaza Strip despite the only Gaza strip item known in the UK is Paul Gascoigne's shirt.
So, yes, the lack of fall in shares at this latest skirmish is likely temporary, just need the media to find enough info to justify the next leg down.
The BBC will show harrowing scenes from Gaza of the injured young and elderly, (omitting any terrorists) with moving background music, and the UK public will feel grateful for queueing for hours when attending their doctors or hospital appointments, which in the case of hospitals they have already waited months or years for, when comparing their 'lot' in life to the victims, not realising that acts of kindness come at a price which 'they' not HMG or the wealthy will pay.
So I feel that the 'new skirmish' is yet to be 'priced in' to shares, as a God given 'reason' for an unpopular Gov to 'blame' outside events as the next Winter of discontent is yet to arrive.
PS I vote Tory, but have feel they are now too lefty.
Lloyds is more than holding its own compared to the FTSE on the yearly chart, c+ 8%.
Well done, great market analysis 👍
This donkey can not even hold on to a rise,was 1% up when I went out now just about green,roll on results then we will see the true state of Lloyds
Dead cat bounce...IMHO
Hardup
Mmmmm your probably right.
Brixton,
I think the Nige fiasco is already priced into Natwest SP. At current Natwest SP today the dividend yield is 7.17%. If you flipped into Lloyds at todays SP the dividend yield would be less......6.29%.
Chid
Your opinion is very worthy
That's probably all i'll end up doing, back on Banking though.
Brixton, imo, which isn't worth anything as shown by other posters attitudes, but at least I have been consistent in assuming that Lloyds is going nowhere fast for the shareholders, then, my take on it is, as HMG still hold a large portion of the shares, then they will do all they can to keep the value of the shares from falling IF possible, especially with an election coming up soon.
As LTI constantly reminds all, the 'market' decides the 'value' of a share, BUT the market is the 'investors demand' and that demand or lack of, is influenced by news, results, expectations etc. So it is not beyond reason that news can be faked, twisted, held back, manipulated, etc if one is powerful
So as a wise investor said many years ago re Lloyds " The time to worry imo, is WHEN HMG gets out, for then, no longer shooting themselves in the foot, when draconian measure are then implemented by HMG on banks.
That could still hold true of NW, so may be safer there for the time being.
But only a 'view' as not like the other perfect investors who despite LLoyds being lower than years and years ago are all doing well with it. So read and ignore imo.
Try a back flip 😎
From NWG to Lloyds ? . Nigel last night said he'd not finished with Coutts/NWG. Wondering if legal action on the Banks licence could make a play. It will cost me but Banking rules are unknown to me & that geezer is a force to reckon with, thoughts anyone, or maybe trade.
Yes changing the subject !
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LONDON, Oct 17 (Reuters) - Growth in British workers' regular pay - which is being watched closely by the Bank of England - slowed from a previous record high and job vacancies also dropped, official figures showed in a sign that the labour market is losing momentum.
British average earnings, excluding bonuses, were 7.8% higher than a year earlier during the three months to the end of August, down from an upwardly revised 7.9% in the three months to July, the first such fall since January.
Average earnings are being monitored by the Bank of England as it considers whether to resume raising interest rates to counter the risks from still high inflation.
The latest reading was in line with expectations from economists polled by Reuters, but sterling fell slightly against the U.S. dollar after the data.
Total pay - a more volatile measure which includes one-off bonuses - was 8.1% higher in the three months to August than a year earlier.
Woman fell asleep out side a synagog last night
We gonna have more repetitive jew 5h!t again today.
Mick-b,
What’s the Israeli-Palestinian conflict got to do with Lloyds bank ? It will only end in tears with the thread being removed…
European folks had been asking for a modern Israel state since at least 1896 and the Theodor Herzl (Hungary) era. Britain accelerated the process in 1917. And finalized it in 1948. Britain ran the world in the first half of the 20th century and carved up half the planet at the flick of a pen.
GAZZ
Spot on‼️
When investors complain about a share price on an investors discussion board, don't you think?. It is as if to say that they are not getting a return on investment that they feel is their right to have received. If someone makes an investment, live with it.
I repeat, it is the market that determines the value of a business .
In the case of LBG from when it was formed, we had the fallout from the world financial crisis resulting in the merger with HBOS and the subsequent consequences of that, resulting in the government taking a large stake. Along with near zero rates for years, the government stake was eventually offloaded, many Billions of pounds in PPI was paid out, then a world pandemic, then soaring inflation coming out of the pandemic with the additional problem of a war stating in Europe.
Is it any wonder why there is caution for investors getting back into banking stocks after all that.
LBG is in the best shape since it was formed . It is an investors choice whether or not to acknowledge that with a first or further investment in the business.
NC
''Take off years of inflation, not just double digit, and billions in buybacks, and to see Lloyds at pence levels is disgusting''
You must be looking forward to changing the record.
The market determines the price level, whether it is pence per share or a pound.
Gazz, and if true, I am certain that the fate of the Jews would have been far worse if Britain hadn't 'kept the USA and Russia onside, and the Germans had had their way.
Real war is complex, not like watching a film, hard decisions have to be made, perhaps being on the defeated side gives all future generations a bit of a complex.
Anyway great to see a buy recommendation, now thats done us a lot of favours this past 15 years.
Take off years of inflation, not just double digit, and billions in buybacks, and to see Lloyds at pence levels is disgusting
Gazz
The Romans, saxons, vikings, Normans & other have all murdered in England. Stay in Scotland if i was you. People on the left are more right wing & self inflict there own wounds.