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Shulvin
I hope you had a good a Pesach, the mount of shares DO matter as I posted in my first email today.
Gotreal that would have to be £250 million after Tax amortisation etc etc. Again I hope your correct, I even hope your correct if we get to half of the 60p. It's funny that there are always more than 2 types of people pessimists, optimists
and realists. You have Mikie and Gotreal in one corner, you have Lenard Cohen in the other with Suzanne in the pessimist corner and then you have Gray1,Dorfan Frokid and the wonderful MOI in the other
If copper goes to $15,000 it won't take long ....
If £1.20 was the top of mount Everest we are at the bottom just putting a team of sherpas together.
C'mon Roan:)
That's the silliest answer I have heard.
If chrome goes to $550 and PGM's go to a basket price of $10,000 dollars it will take even less time.
I do think Copper will get to $12000 eventually, but when you hear these Sultans of the market preach that XYZ will maybe go to ZXY they are talking up their own book and are very rarely correct, it's just noise. Even Golman aren't preaching that price
A bit late to the party today. Did you get detention gotreal? Or extra maffs lesson !
Edzi, I disagree. the amount of shares does not matter, its the market cap. If we have 3B shares at 7p or 1.5B shares at 14p its the same thing. Share consolidation wont change anything. A buyback is a different matter, this will reduce the shares in issue and the market cap.
Should be leave the market cap the same.
He was going to post earlier but his mam was late making him his lunch..
I have 4 targets.
8.25p to give me a one bagger this time round.
9.5p because that's what I was aiming for when I started looking in here.
17p because I think the sp can get there without the IRH deal.
£1.20 just so gotreal can be right for once.
Edzi.... watch and learn..... https://youtu.be/ZCDIt_0Sog4?feature=shared
Milieu
Good evening, where have. Spoken about share consolidation?
Your statement is correct but obvious. But EPS is a different conversation and before I posted I again read up on it to make sure of my facts. Please read my original post. Another topic regarding share buy backs that has been written by various top brokers is that they very rarely work.
Apologise Mike my IPad must be a woman because it’s being very temperamental with its spelling
From a comment on that Crux Investor presentation (Merlin states coper needs to be at $15 - 20,000 / ton at 1:30s) ...
@antoniotreminio
"I am a venture capitalist specializing in exploring and producing high-grade copper ore or concentrate. The demand for copper has increased significantly over the past two years, and we are witnessing it firsthand. While there is no shortage of buyers, there is already a significant shortage of suppliers.
I believe the price of copper will rise to $15K and eventually to $20K. There are many factors to support this forecast, but I do not have enough time or space to mention them all. However, I can say that most copper producers are decreasing production due to lower grades. Additionally, no junior mining companies are coming into production in the next three to five years capable of producing over 100K MT of Cu concentrate. Nevertheless, the world wants more and more copper.
My sense is that in the longer term, between 5 to 7 years, once the world faces a copper deficit of several million MT annually, copper prices will rise above $50K per MT."
Gotreal
Fine if you want to believe it. I can show you videos of established American financiers stating 2/3 years ago that gold would go to $10000 dollars an ounce because of what they consider plausible reasons. . We are till waiting. By the way I think you feel that I would not want it to happen.
Gold is a mystery metal driven entirely by sentiment - not supply and demand.
"That's the silliest answer I have heard...... "
Gotreal
I’ve got a great idea. I’m going to not reply to your posts anymore because I’m not practicing what I preach. Your not worth dealing with I wish you well in the future
Edzi, EPS will be individually different, but combined they will be the same. In example at 14p you would have double the amount of EPS, but half as many. At 7p you would have half the earnings per share, but twice as many. Combined both would be the same and the percentage would be the same. So if Jubilee half the number of shares by way of consolidation any dividend i receive would be the same combined total.
Milieu
How are you?
I don’t know how we got onto talking about share consolidation but the process of eps or calculating EPS has nothing to do with share consolidation so what you saying is correct but what’s it got to do with calculating EPS with a company not paying dividends
Edzi, im fine and i hope you are too. My point is my percentage of the company is now set. So if they reduce the number of shares to get the EPS up, it makes no difference to me.
Edzi, i guess i am part of your Milieu!
Great work, more than 100 posts for the day! That's almost 4 posts for every trade 😁
Good morning everybody another day closer for Roan.
Gotreal I saw the article you referred to with the guy claiming copper could go to $50k/ton. The men in white coats have reserved a room for him.
He is right the indications are there that demand will outstrip supply it just depends by how much
There will be a tipping point for the price of copper at which point the cost of products with copper in become too expensive and consumer demand will fall off. I don't know what that price will be and neither does anyone else.
Manufacturers will then look to source cheaper alternatives to control their costs and there are cheaper alternatives out there.
I wouldn't get too carried away with an exponential rise in the copper price and that price being sustained for a lengthy period of time.
I had no idea you were such an expert in the field, Gray! Does the thought of a tearaway copper price disturb you in some way? The point of the demand for copper is that there is no viable alternative...
No just common sense goes a long way. There are many alternatives to help reduce demand.
What are they? And any that are potentially viable will have to be tested and approved in the various applications where they are substituted... that would take years, wouldn't it?