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Started: BearleyCalls, 18 Jun 2024 10:00
Last post: BearleyCalls, Today 07:14
One of the reasons that the appeal succeeded against IM ,was that it was deemed that because gas is a fossil fuel, the plan breached govt policy. An easy way around that it to promote another plan string hydrogen. This would then support Govt policy. See below.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-hydrogen-strategy
Who is IM FC Consuela? No such team in Islandmagee as that. There is an IFC however.
"Looked"...? I wasn't there as my flight was delayed , were you?
Where are all the IM FC Fan club anyway, I'm sure Judy will be giving them all a big hug... 😂😂😂🥴🥴
You looked happy yesterday Consuela , I had a fat rascal for you .
Gurn, cry and keep up the mindless nonsense posts, changes nothing. Oh well, onto the next car crash for JW and team.
Any news on the Finance yet? 🥴
Started: broomtree, 18 Jun 2024 22:28
Last post: Kaeren, 18 Jun 2024 23:39
Don't worry BT , she'll be full of daytrippers soon , I heard from a freind of a freind that they are going toot hello each time they go flying past the Scillonian . I'll wave at them at them too on my trip in August, as I'm a friendly soul .
Si - you have seen it but talking about a statement tomorrow saying all bookings cancelled until further notice…. Maybe a consequence of the RIB being unavailable
Originally outfitted by Rock Marine Services so maybe they know the vessel well enough to sort it out in good time.
One of the problems appears to be crew, still advertising for a Pilot for a two month job (possible permanent) . When that’s sorted final licensing and dry runs.
The RIB appears to be at Rock across from Padstow, it broke down yesterday and that is where it came from initially
Started: BearleyCalls, 18 Jun 2024 13:37
Last post: BearleyCalls, 18 Jun 2024 23:00
Low, compared to potential.
Just read a good article re H&W, think it was defence news.
Great possibilities
And the risk is......
I had a feeling there might be some news soon let’s see what rest of week brings
212,00 sold 927,00 bought
Or is it killik buying back in
Started: stokey12, 18 Jun 2024 18:34
Last post: Bubble2021, 18 Jun 2024 22:00
Stokey impressive pictures there thanks for link
If H&W can bring about this turn around investors can look forward to AT LEAST a 50x bagger 🙌🏼 a market cap of just £1billion shouldn’t be hard in an industry where multi billion pound contracts are commonplace.
Question is timelines…
Just seen this on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7208876422377934848/ there are some nice photos on the link. The post says
H&W Terramare, successfully working in collaboration with Kaymac Marine & Civil Engineering ltd 🚧, constantly moving plant machinery, personel and🚢 towing 250m lengths of pipe out to site.
These great 📷 shots coming from the crew onboard doing a early morning tow.👍 hashtag#busybusy hashtag#landingcraft hashtag#towing hashtag#workboat hashtag#project hashtag#Wales hashtag#CivilEngineeri
Started: engineerinvests, 18 Jun 2024 16:39
Last post: engineerinvests, 18 Jun 2024 17:56
yes digital twins are such a good development. i have sent an email to harlandwolff@radnorcp.com asking all these questions now. let’s see what they respond with, if they respond i don’t know.
but it’s something…. if a company were to be actively pursuing…. would be a very good sign for prospecting in the future. i’m glad they’ve hired a guy from bab****.
one thing i can say about all these competitors is that they are lazy as hell. so if h&w are on their game they can quite easily get ahead if they make some friends in good places. they’ll need to hire staff with good contacts to secure the right contracts too.
h&w is the type of company that any new uk government would jump to be boasting about in terms of training british workers, british manufacturing, british high skilled labour, british high salaries, and more. this all plays into the things they love to talk about saying they are the ones that boosted this.
h&w simply needs to be on top of their game. i also sent them a warning about being an old company with an old mindset, they need to think innovation.
ha maybe i should apply for a role and take the control myself 😂🙌🏼
i told them to even look into the idea that has been circulating of smr companies wanting to build nuclear platforms at sea for nuclear power plants, they could build the floating platforms. giving them some ideas, get ahead of the game!
Engineerinvests: Digital Twins, Virtual Environments, Design Software etc...perhaps the Chief Engineer, Forbes Morgan, (recently recruited from Bab***k) might be best placed to answer your question, which is a very good one BTW.
Not my area of expertise, but there was a lot of talk about tec transfer from Navantia as part of the FSS program. I know F/O staff , engineers & those with physical roles have been out to Spain & this is ongoing. Exactly what they are being trained in , given exposure to, I have no idea.
Thanks stokey, I’ll try to speak up about this.
I am an engineer ofcourse having worked with all the big multinationals…. And I know they are all implementing this tech. As well as automated laser welding lines etc.
And I would HOPE a company suffering like H&W are orienting themselves for success and staying ahead of the game. H&W is a very small company now, in that sense it can make changes and implement new procedures and visions fast whereby these other big builders would take decades. What the likes of BMT and BAE do in a decade, H&W needs to implement faster and with higher focus on return on investment!
I’ll email him thanks.
Engineerinvests ref 16.39 post While I am t sure about the specific processes you mention I know one of the subsidiaries is Harland and Wolff (Technology). These kind of things are as I understand it the kind of things together with perhaps 3D printing that they might be looking at. As to the question you pose although we have not had one so far this year when we have an investor event you might want to pose the question to JW. Also as I suspect that on ocassion members of the comms teams I do make the odd post on here in order to send a message to HARL. I would suggest you might email Neville Harris at harlandwolff@radnorcp.com.
Started: stokey12, 18 Jun 2024 12:55
Last post: Bubble2021, 18 Jun 2024 15:32
BC, just advice , infact just had a article alert for RKH must go
Now Bubble, dont knock him. He did in fact play an important and necessary role in the Falkland's war. He was the guy that counted out the paperclips, that kept the supply sheets in nice neat order. Attention.
BC you sum him up , now broomtree where you a policeman working at greenham common or a security guard ?,
You may want to check . You may have got that the wrong way around Bubble (:
BT, I think BC sums up really a self inflicted clown who talks absolute rubbish at times , tags onto a conversation and thinks he knows it all
Started: stokey12, 18 Jun 2024 14:35
Last post: stokey12, 18 Jun 2024 14:35
Just seen this article in UK Defence Journal. https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/future-work-plans-for-ferguson-marine-discussed/ Of particular note is the less than ringing endorsement when pressed over compliance with state aid rules. I recall that CALMAC did last year tender for a framework for the small vessels programme.
Started: Bubble2021, 18 Jun 2024 08:46
Last post: Bubble2021, 18 Jun 2024 13:24
Come on JW , typo apologies sound like Stokey 😂
This ship ain’t sinking it’s about to be reborn cwith mon JW get the finance news out
Full ask being paid tick up coming
Where's the fun in that? I invest for many reasons, and I make many mistakes. If it stops being fun, then stop doing it! I invested in Harl because they invested in Appledore and continue to provide good jobs & training in areas that really need it. I'm not going to abandon ship because I do believe it is worth supporting. Maybe I'm a dumb blonde, but blondes do have more fun!!
Look at all those buys coming in , I wonder why🤔
Started: ForrestGump, 18 Jun 2024 08:33
Last post: ForrestGump, 18 Jun 2024 08:59
All the woke politicians like a photo op at Belfast.
How about Nigel Farage uses IM for one of his?
GLA
Not really. The IM judgement is the perfect example of what is happening to the United Kingdom.
We are being destroyed by people who can move to most any country on earth, so care nothing for the people who actually have to live, work, and bring up families there!
Zzzzzzzzzzz. I'm sure there are better places to discuss your issues than a share discussion board.
Stokey. Cultural-Marxist. It's what the Globalist, would-be slayers of Nation States, hate being called. ergo the reason they invented the term Woke.
They might have well just used Broke!
ForestGump ref 08.33 post what definition are you using for Woke?
Started: Running1, 18 Jun 2024 08:50
Last post: Bubble2021, 18 Jun 2024 08:51
Running1,yes watched it on business news this morning not good imho needs sorting
Link to article is https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl44edly2ryo
It begins
"Investment levels in the UK remain among the worst of the world's richest nations and unless they improve it is hard to see how the economy will grow, a think tank has said.
The Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) said total investment in the UK is significantly behind the nearest competitor in the G7 group of wealthy nations."
Later it says
"However, the IPPR says that data from the Organisation of Economic Co-ordination and Development (OECD) shows that when measuring total investment - which covers both businesses and government - the UK has had the lowest level of investment in the G7 for 24 of the past 30 years.
It adds that the UK currently is not just bottom of the G7 investment table (with investment at 11.3% of national income), but significantly behind the next worst performer (the US with 21.2%).
The UK's dire productivity performance since the great financial crisis of 2008 is, to a large extent, the single biggest driver of our dire living standards," the IPPR says."
Started: stokey12, 18 Jun 2024 06:42
Last post: Si_Derman, 18 Jun 2024 08:40
Seems that we have been here so many times before discussing the same old issues. Have suggested making the discharge pipe long enough to discharge into the open sea. But, tbh, just bored with the whole thing now.
RCMPMounties ref 08.16 post On your last point it is not the only asset that was provided as a security so I do not see the decsion having any effect as its value has not in my view changed as a result of yesterday's result.
Xenor ref 08.07 post I agree there is no way of preventing a new decision being appealed. That said if the decision is made in line with yesterday's judgement then chances of a successfull chanllenge are lessen.
There is no way forward I can see for the gas caverns at Islandmagee to ever be developed now without years of wrangling, either applying to the Supreme Court or going down the Executive committee process.
And I may be wrong but didn't Riverstone have this project down as security against the debt the company have? If so what implications would this now have for that?
If the decision is remade then what's to stop the protestors from tying it up in another 3 year JR + appeals process? The legal system is broken, we can no longer build critical infrastructure in this country.
Started: ForrestGump, 18 Jun 2024 00:10
Last post: spudtheplumber, 18 Jun 2024 06:30
Yeah Arun and himself wouldn't have pocketed several million, phew!
Most clouds have silver linings, and ours is that Sir John had the foresight to expand his horizons beyond the moribund UK energy sector.
It is true that we have teething troubles with Scilly Ferries, but by March of next year things will look very, very, different. A thousand workers will working on the FSS contract, other contracts will have been won, and the Isles of Scilly Steamship Company might well be out of business!
GLA
Started: BearleyCalls, 17 Jun 2024 09:24
Last post: Bubble2021, 18 Jun 2024 06:00
JW will move on from this and get the shipbuilding/ green energy and Scilly isle contracts up and running making harl a successful company going forward imho
Don’t you just love it when a confirmed ‘lurker’ calls others who engage openly ‘trolls’?
Looking at the Facebook posts in question, it's easy to tell who is an unhappy customer and who is just a random troll from this board doing what they do best. But I can't deny that this ferry has become a farce. It's a colossal waste of money when the finances are so tight and we've a never ending wait for a new finance deal.
I'm surprised he didn't use his brothers fishing boat like he did for the ML survey, he can just put a banner on the side that says "Ferry" instead of "Survey vessel".
They're getting battered on FB, lack of comms etc...someone even called it "John Wood vanity project".. 😂
There’s a thread that tells a story! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but things just got worse! With the Wolff delayed until 15 July….. the RIB has now broken down and wasn’t able to sail today either - a growing number of very unhappy and disillusioned customers, now actually referring people to the ISSC
Started: stokey12, 17 Jun 2024 13:34
Last post: Consuela, 17 Jun 2024 22:49
I doubt that. Maybe he can get a few shekels from his little boat but sadly it appears they're letting Scilly residents down now, they're getting battered on FB... 😂😂
The Stormont Assembly will give them more money to prop it up. Too big a brand to fail in an election year.
Next on the agenda will be a 5:1 share consolidation, followed by a placing. JW running out of options to keep HARL afloat (pun intended).
Is this project still going well for everyone?
Well, well, well, we've been banging the "this project won't happen" drum for 12 years now, and guess what? IT WON'T HAPPEN.
We did try and warn you all, but greed took precedence, so suck it up buttercup. Let's hope Harl/ Infrastrata/ Islandmagee Energy return our landscape to its original condition and that's the end of it. Oh, maybe we can now move out of our caves when we recoup our costs. I fancy a villa at Browns Bay, up on the hill, not too far from the beach.
Started: Apothecary, 17 Jun 2024 21:59
Last post: Garonne, 17 Jun 2024 22:47
Let's face it, there's been precious little good news here. It would be an absolute disgrace if UKG let's this go under. It's a national asset, especially with ship building needing to be ramped up. Also, you'd think the MLAs at Stormount would view the IM gas storage as something worth having not least to establish energy security for NI! Maybe somebody doesn't want Harland's to succeed.
I like your positive post hope you are right. Regards
My thoughts are that we won’t see finance deal until after the election. Harland and Wolff is of historic importance to Belfast and Northern Ireland. It’s the pride of our Belfast skyline. And must be maintained and put on a positive financial footing… new government will want to make a fresh start in NI after the Irish Sea border catastrophe.
Started: LSE03, 17 Jun 2024 17:37
Last post: broomtree, 17 Jun 2024 21:59
Closed period before annual results is two months I believe but in any case it’s at least 30 days so any notion of the Board buying 13 days before results are due is a non starter
Scaffman that would be good if he has , maybe bought before finance news
Chris I think JW will come up with the finance deal before end of month imho am going to add some more tomorrow as I think this is still a strong buy imho gl.
This date has long been in the pipeline, JW last bought shares big time in 2022 i.e.( incidentally 3.3m )over a few days perhaps as IM has now gone public, no finance sorted as such and accounts not done, perhaps he feels that he would be allowed buy. this would mean that 30 days would have to wait until accounts can be published so maybe a delay in submitting acc's is on cards. All in my humble opinion and I hope this would be the case for confidence building. but again pure speculation on my part...
Hi All - At 13.43 I posted that the Appeal was upheld by which point the SP had been dropping.Who is their right minds would invest £290k at 13.44 when our case had been lost, there is so far no news on a financial deal yet, no update on contract news, no trading update etc etc.It does not make financial sense & so I believe it must have been a Sale.
In addition currently there is £10.5m on the balance sheet under intangible assets for Gas Storage development which unless the situation can be rescued the auditors may argue that it should be amortised fully.However I note & had missed today the following in the BBC article - 'The court will decide whether to fully quash the granting of the marine licence and the awarding of costs in a hearing on 27 June.' which is 3 days before the accounts are due to be announced.Fingers crossed the license is not quashed & it maybe has some life left.
I have not given up on H&W as I believe they have made great progress but we now need to see financial proof of that.Tomorrow is another day we can but hope for better times.
Started: randerson19, 17 Jun 2024 17:19
Last post: Consuela, 17 Jun 2024 21:38
Bore off TDF, your ship has sailed, or sunk in this case.
Spent the weekend hunched over a keyboard getting all ready to start chiming off on " Mondays news" that will propel the SP to, what was it?.. 50p?...£1 or £5?
Total bloater. Did you cancel the big party at the Derby and Joan club?
🤡🥴
Anyone with a decent IQ may be able to see the irony in your post Look up the word. I dont think they teach it in Fake Law school. PS still no explanation on the cases legal matter. I wonder why.
It's all over the press why Harl lost the case 🤡. It's funny how you revert to personal attacks when you're on the back foot.
You ramble total garbage at the best of times and call out other people's IQ when yours is lower than whale dung.
The Fake Lawyer ,who claims to have a legal education, doesnt seem to have the faintest idea why HARL lost the case. I expect that all her other ideas are similarly without foundation.
IM was never on the radar as a strategically important project from the DoE reports. The verdict is only "Bonkers" because it didn't go your way.
Even if it did go in H&W favour they weren't getting built so could yourself lucky...
Started: AimMaster2018, 17 Jun 2024 19:59
Last post: Consuela, 17 Jun 2024 21:33
Hey, If it wasn't the ML it would have been something else, loads more enablers for his "Shovel ready" project. 🥴
JW just stringing people along with tripe like he's done for most of his "Career". Total chancer. Best of luck for the future and just chalk it up as a lesson learnt.
You were right all along. Glad I listened and was long gone from here like 2 to 3 months ago. Felt unease with soo much uncertainty. Yes lse, my message last week should have been a warning sign but you twisted my post to make out I was trying to get in cheap for today's judgement lol. Results out soon. Wonder how the market take the news of the debt levels harl has amassed imho gla
Started: Openheimer, 17 Jun 2024 16:12
Last post: Consuela, 17 Jun 2024 17:57
Aww jfk, getting touchy on the news?.. bless you. There was a very good reason why it was pulled from PCI and it didn't even make the second cut so even calling it out as a "Was", was brave.
Xenor. Might Consuela be sinking a few Vodkas with her Chow mein tonight?
That's all we need to know about the 5th Columnists!
The political class sold us out to China a few decades ago. And yet they are strangely adverse to Russia - or are they? Our sanctions against the country appear to be making it into a global player at our expense?!?
Certainly this kind of thing is why the UK is falling behind the likes of China and other nations that are able to build infrastructure. I'm not against net zero and anti climate change measures but stopping this project is foolish and short sighted as it just means we will be shipping gas around the world at a higher price instead of storing extra here. Gas is a transition fuel and will be needed for decades. These protestors don't seem to understand that. Got to wonder who is funding this kind of sabotage.
Consuela, I said was a EU project. Keep up dumb cow.
Broomtree you’ll not strong buy on all my posts I look at the fundamentals nothing else so yep I’ll ramp away as I think this is a strong buy I’ll buy more if it drops to 7p for sure will you?
These Lefties love nothing more than a bit of "climate change" to get them up on their high horses. They shout about stopping oil but offer no credible alternative to powering the modern world. It's one of the big down sides of democracy that the tail very often ends up wagging the dog with these idiots succeeding in halting an infrastructure project of national significance! Meanwhile, the silent majority just get taxed to oblivion to pay for their crack pot ideas. I mean by the time son of a toolmaker Starmer is finished crippling the North Sea oil industry we'll be paying even more tax to replace all the lost revenue that the Treasury will no longer be getting. You couldn't make it up!
Don't the European Union run the island of Ireland these days?
And isn't the whole of Europe turning into a Third World cesspit?
Https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp993dp0mjdo
These clowns don't deserve fossil fuel. Do they not realise that there's no significant alternative and that without it, we'll be going back to the dark ages. Northern Ireland is an economic black hole and sooner or later governments will get fed up subsidising it for little return. A project like this would've restored some relevance to the place but these environmental clowns can't see further than the ends of their noses!
Started: Corporatejoke, 17 Jun 2024 16:03
Last post: randerson19, 17 Jun 2024 17:19
Agreed
Well summed up Corporate. My thoughts exactly. You have hit the Nub of the problem.
My understanding was that the judicial review was to stop or limit the amount of salt destined for the ocean not something that is 26 year away??? A bit short sighted as there are discussions of blending gas and hydrogen, and over the next 26 years would more than likely , if those that think they are godly don’t change there mortal minds, stick to 2050 the caverns having been built years ago would more than likely hold just hydrogen and that would comply with net bloody zero?????
Started: Phillip1976, 17 Jun 2024 15:25
Last post: Bubble2021, 17 Jun 2024 16:19
Would it be years away if the country runs out of supplies and have to pay massively to import it , I think the government may have something to say about it imho
Strange that we haven't heard the False lawyers reasoning behind the appeals success. Mind you, you actually would have to have a legal qualification to do that, not just claim one.
Could be years away from sorting this out now if Mr Wood goes down the Supreme Court route which he mentions in the RNS!
Oh for an edit/delete button on these chat boards...
OK, so, an appeal by the looks of things. Cost considerations notwithstanding.
I have been out all day and just saw the SP, but nothing anywhere in the media.
Do we know for certain that the IM verdict has been reached, or is this speculation?
The SP has not breached the year low, which I would have expected in such an event.
Either way, they should have a plan already lined up for such an eventuality IMO.
Not that IM formed part of my investment case when I was a holder, but obviously it would have had a very beneficial influence on a variety of things if it had proceeded. Or if it still does. Like I said, I cannot see anything about the verdict. Not trying to make accusations or suchlike, but I want to see an RNS.
Not that it matters either way, but I have not bought back in, so only an interested observer at the time of print.
Started: stokey12, 17 Jun 2024 15:54
Last post: Kaeren, 17 Jun 2024 16:10
It's the only thing that matters today Stokey , unless they announce the finance deal imo.
Kaeren ref 15.58 did you not once accuse me of trying to dictate the narrative? IM is not the only thing happening.
Now why would they be advertising for staff if they didn’t think he was going to get the financing done
Excellent news Stokey thanks for posting harl continue to expand their business in shipbuilding industry and repair / maintenance
I don't think Stokey12 that many are interested in that right now , a case of read the room.
Started: Bubble2021, 17 Jun 2024 16:03
Last post: Bubble2021, 17 Jun 2024 16:08
JW , to review the outcome and look at options so not completely finish with though I would prefer them to concentrate on the shipbuilding and renewable energy side of things imho
RNS out ….,
Started: goingunderground, 17 Jun 2024 15:40
Last post: goingunderground, 17 Jun 2024 15:40
Never mind there might be jam tomorrow