Episode 14 has dropped: Investing Matters Podcast, Tim Rogers, the former CEO of AB Dynamics. Listen here.
Dav...yep the current finance person certainly has been a key part in the transformation of the last 9 months. The sp suggests that the company has hardly turned things round
Placings / sale of alva at a serious loss / trying to dump cd4.
Caley..my suspicion is a lot was wasted on wages...there was overjoy on Twitter at the mention of 200-300 staff etc...but when you look at what income their labour brought in...something was very wrong.
I think odx will try to claim some of these expenses back off the gov...but as they never produced anything for the gov the responsibility was really theirs..the contract was quite clear from my reading
Blue..if there is a peace settlement there is no reason to expect sanctions not to be lifted. The west really does not need to economic hardship that sanctions will bring them as well.
Remember it will take time for many countries to wean themselves off russian oil and gas. Companies are losing money not being able to do business with Russia etc..yes in these woke times it seems all very well posturing about not dealing with Russia but when profits are hit etc.there will be a u turn on the cards
I see that many governments might enjoy seeing Russia weakened..but global business won't. Money talks
Blue you have an interesting point. The hope I suppose is that there is a peace agreement .. possibility of land conceded and sanctions lifted. Or a russian regime change will do
lol.....
wonder what happened to the sweaty sock puppet?
Did he eventually meet up with someone he was threatening and either ended up doing porridge or got battered himself?
the track suit king does not go to work premises during the summer months - it is prime garden time. however he checks email on fridays to check payslip arrived
it is very interesting looking at the psychology of share buying and selling. specifically at what point you bale on a share that SP crashes.
what keeps holders in on odx? genuine belief it will rise like a phoenix? belief that it has gone so low that it must surely go up ? blind hope? resignation of it has dropped so much not worth selling? denial? etc etc
trader - good post and i agree there are many better shares out there.
before the recent placing i would probably predicted the company folding.
however the shrewdness they have shown with the latest placing makes me wonder if i had failed to see them as a very successful aim lifestyle company. 30 years is a long time to survive with poor sales
i would not be surprised if they obtained some other test which could be used as jam tomorrow - ,maybe even to promote future placings.
i am really not convinced they can make a go of food intolerance testing. i think it is a good test in an expanding market but.....why as a company do they struggle to sell?..
it has been a fascinating learning curve - although costly ..and i am very intrigued in what happens next
"I can't see it doing much but I do get the feeling the drop is now bottomed. I still think the company may go bust but not in the near term (1 year to 2 years is not out of the question though). I just don't think there will be any significant upward movement with this one."
trader - seems a very reasonable assessment.
personally i can't see it getting over 4p until open offer closed - unless a massive pump by the track suit king.
see it bouncing around this price point - the markets are rough at the moment but i think 3pish is the bottom.
as for the future of the company - see what more they can raise in open offer. then there is the potential sale of cd4 which i am guessing will be under £3m.
a lot will rest on the gov claim for pre production repayment - as this could wipe out any gain from cd4 sale.
all the above will determine if/when the next placing - unless leopard (should be jag---uar i suppose...lol) changes spots and actually sells significant quantities of food intolerance
think there could be potential for a trade at this point for some - not for me as i won't trade stocks unless i think they have secure future. like you i question this on odx
crober - if you are not interested then why log in? rather than try to dictate who and what people can post. no one put a gun to your head
if the posts are not to your taste - why don't you lead by example and post some amazing insight or research you have done?
"Ukraine just has to keep inflicting massive losses on them and then financial cost will do the rest. Russia is not a rich country and its got massive costs to cover. Economics wins more wars than soldiers in the end."
whilst i agree in theory..the issue is that the russian mentality is pretty stubborn. war has increased putin's popularity and it is most likely being viewed by enough as a ideological war of Russia v west and the liberation of russians in ukraine against nazi extremism.
i don't see how russia can be seen to lose on this? which could drag it on the more the west does supply ukraine with the means to fight.
biden is laughing in his indirect war on russia until the last ukrainian remains
"it is also a question of how much the European/USA financial support of Ukraine will be tolerated by their respective populations, in the face of recession and inflationary pressures brought about by the war."
totally agree. however it will take stones to speak up against the likes of boris "altruistically "donating money and weapons to ukraine - to allow him to posture on the world stage.
think we have some way to go- as people are not realising what is coming
Caley ..at the time I made a lot of excuses for it...I know there were some on here calling them out for it ...but I wanted to believe in odx...tried to excuse any negative with the promise of the big contract.
Few months later and I joked that calamity Colin didn't get the memo to sell like everyone else...it may have been nearer the truth than I had imagined...maybe the rest of the directors knew the company and the contract limitations better than the clown king as I affectionately used to refer to him
Caley ..very good point on the directors sells. How much did they know or predict from info about the contract that sh were not privy to?
With time the actions look more and more dubious to put it politely
"Traderbuckie did you ramp odx for £2"
caley - a lot of us thought odx would fly through £2 - back in the day.
I even advised a friend to buy in when it was 90p....luckily colin released one of his infamous rns and i text her immediately don't do it. could you imagine having to try and explain 4p to her?
"Time will tell. 4p is NOT cheap and is not an opportunity for a company that cannot make any money and needs to keep getting its hat out for a whip round solely to survive."
it is a good point - until odx can prove it can sell product - and I don't mean the factory or part of their portfolio in a firesale because they cant afford it anymore - the question is "is 4p cheap?"
They need to start showing the market that it has got things very wrong
They will soon have one product type - they need to make it count and soon.
trader - i agree the gov will go after odx...why? because they can. the gov could never chase the money they wasted on chinese or turkish pony trap....but they can go after uk business and be "seen" to trying to claw back money. it is not right but it is what it is. I certainly hope odx legal advice is better than the one that failed to inform odx of the original gov contract end date etc.
Sound financial footing is director speech for got next year's salary. Thank you very much
Hashtag Choo Choo..all aboard multibaggrr express
"You know why i dont believe this hardship exists. Because my mates brother spent 10 years getting off his face on Mcat with his girlfriend and kid in the house. Neither worked because they claimed all sorts of benefits ,"
oh well that explains away world poverty then.....
"Ive never met or even seen anyone that poor they cant afford food"
I am sure some living in hampstead possibly say the same thing.
However just because you are lucky enough not to see it (or choose not to see it ) doesn't mean it does not exist.
just as i wrote this...you then write
""I wasnt born with anything so ive seen poverty and grew up around it."
so your contradicting yourself there....if poverty does not exist you can't then claim bonus points for "boy done good"
panda - presumably if you can dabble in the stock market you have sufficient money to make ends meet even if food prices go up.
That is not everybody's reality.
food prices are starting to increase - and will get worse. add in the increases in fuel / gas / electricity and the knock on effect that will have in just about everything.
we still need to pay back the money spent during covid times....we will end up paying more tax to fund ukraines war effort. if / when the war ends boris will happily look good by paying for the repair of the war zone - well it won't come out of his pocket.
the longer this goes on the more we will all ultimately pay
there needs to be peace - to save more lives directly and indirectly with the poverty around the world as a result of this conflict
five o - or are you the po po?
£1.2m of the recent £2m will be spent on balancing the £300k loss per month whilst they sell CD4
You fail to mention the £2.5m owed to the gov
whatever food intolerance sales bring they do not keep the company running as there was a need for a placing.
there could be a premium on current sp if the company start pumping - expect finnCrap to be releasing more "research" notes.
however long term this is still a huge risk - on whether odx can sell