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And maybe more selling. Down again of course. Don’t give up your shares. What’s the point?
This is getting ridiculous now. I understand we have a seller, but the fact no II is ready to just hoover up this shares is a worry. We need an update of some sort NOW!
No longer interested in RNS about various different conferences 4D are invited to attend. Need real business update.
Oh dear what’s changed
Very poor show this morning
Phil - the wider sentiment in this sector has taken a hit. It’s put up or shut up time for many…. Keep an eye out for Evelo Biosciences, it’s up next for its readout.
Couldn’t agree more Philgekko - come on 4D give us a proper update !
I agree Philgekko we need some leadership from the board to explain the drop and why one of the directors is selling. Come on Sangijeulas what's your take on this.
None of the directors is selling. The seller is a distressed US investor who has just lost 10s of millions in another company.
I wouldn't personally invest somewhere where I know so little about the company, that I think a director is selling when they aren't.
I agree Phil, but they could also make the reading of the RNS alot clearer to us mere laymen, perhaps if they started by stating they had seen positive results in the phase 1 or 2 etc and were progressing to etc. Then go on to give all the technical guff. But no, we just get all the guff and have to sort through it to pick out the the pertinent bits. The Nomad could do with a kick up the Jacksy for not pointing this out to the eggheads.
Pastyermaster - please check your information before dropping bombs like 'Director selling' here.
There is only one investor (albeit pretty significant one) that is selling (Oliveria) and no Directos selling to my knowledge.
As you know Investor does not mean Director., let's not be spreading panic please (especially if untrue). Thanks
Maybe lay people shouldn't go investing in biotechs if they are not prepared to make the effort to understand the science?
After all that's why institutional investors often specialise in biotechs or they employ people with science PhDs to interpret things for them.
Sunnyca- agree, I really cannot understand why it is that highly intelligent people who work in biotech cannot compute that times have changed and that private investors are now a very significant audience and they need to be explained things in layman's terms.
Tech sector are already doing it, all other sectors are really. Time for biotech to get off their high horse perhaps (I find this is not just a 4D thing)
Sang I'm not sure if you are misreading what I said, being patronising or just plain combative, what I'm saying is they should just start with a short statement saying it's all good basically, having to drill down through all the technical data each time is ridiculous. As for whether people should be investing if they aren't prepared to understand the science is quite a statement given that is a new science. Do I understand the process of extracting gold? To a degree yes, but that hasn't prevented me from investing in gold exploration and processing the same goes for new energy technology etc. I understand enough to remain here but the fact is if 4D had been "clearer" with their communication the sp wouldn't be where it is now.
not sure I agree sunny - stress-selling is going to crucify a share even if the news is good - much better in fact to line up the good news to coincide with the end of sustained share-dumping, thus allowing the Sp to quickly return to levels that reflect the IP and revenue potential.
Hmmmm not sure there would be many investors if ‘lay people’ should not invest.
Just sick of lazy investors spreading FUD because they are upset that their 10 bagger expectations haven't been met within their magical thinking time frames
What do you think you actually achieve with your constant whinging?
Sang - You being the sophisticated investor will presumably keep buying all the down to the cash value of around 15p...
Sanguijuelas
I very much appreciate your posts in general.
I would ask you to have a little empathy for those” lazy” investors who have not ten bagged. It really is not that simple. People of all metaphorical “ shapes and sizes” invest. For all sorts of reasons. Lazy is only one attribute.
You are obviously irritated. But some decent human beings are probably hurting.
I encourage people to read the link under takeovers yesterday.
It explains a little along with the distressed seller.
Yes this is tough to watch but this is a long term investment for me (Doesn't make the slide any easier to digest).
crl123, I've seen that takeover article posted on nearly every aim share I own when they are having a tough month(s) - not sure you can read too much into it.
DPC Sure
I was just trying to reassure and educate -maybe-some investors. It’s a tatty article but holds some truths about shareholder manipulation at times.
I was just trying to calm the tirbulent waters on which I am also afloat.
yep, seems a tad more savvy to wait....
you can know a little of the science but little of trading, & that's fatal lol
No trading mate. Conviction investing I believe they call it.
fair enough...although one of the great joys of this game is liquidity (I made my dosh in private equity)
In times of agitation it is not so nice to rub noses in it.
Good for you for making money.
Trading and investing should go hand in hand.
Seems to be a distinct lack of empathy around today.
To err is human. To dig the knofe in is also human for some.
This is not such an easy time for many holders.
Consider before posting one or two people who are not affected.
I’ll get off my moral horse now. But maybe I say a sliver of truth.
Maybe a wasted post.
stock trading isn't nice...it's brutal