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I had written this off 7 years ago (not sure if I am intelligent), and then just by sheer accident a couple of months ago, I discovered that there was a supposed payout........still waiting, obviously but only for months and not years.
I just don't get it why ABH decided to fling the door wide open, and invite shareholders to question whether they will or will not get a return, as he could have just kept his trap shut and we would have forgotten about the little toad, and just put it all down to experience - a very bad one at that !!!
I'd guess Whisperings answer will be the same as most intelligent people, having written this off 7 years ago ago any return will be a bonus no matter how long it takes,if no return then nothing is lost since, for the umpteenth time of telling, most people have written this off a long time ago
Talking today,I only see a sea of green.
Whispering, I am not going to argue with you. I have my views, you have yours. The simple (and it is) fact at this stage is paying people as promised, multiple times, which has not occurred. I have stated before, that if he / the company / the paying agent/s pays someone, then it will address the issue, until then, I believe the updates have not been accurate, they have been and continue to be misleading.
A question for you...
If you have not received any funds as prmised in say another 8 weeks time, what will be your view?
Soyo
Re your post yesterday and replies this morning… which I get your point in some respects, of re-hashed updates during the past six weeks or so…
16th January 2024
‘As disclosed on the 20th October 2023 and given the delays experienced during last year, ‘much outside of the Company’s control’, an enhanced payment for the DaaP sale has been negotiated… (c$4.5m)
$50m licensing fee - sat with agents awaiting payment to shareholders ?
Anomalies with the capital share book, from 2018 early 2019… ?
Shareholders asked for clarification on anomalies just last week, and we got it in Friday afternoon’s update.
Nevertheless I asked for you to ‘explain his motive for lying?’
I was interested in your views because I read the updates during the past 18 months as progressive.
It’s Amit’s responsibility as CEO to keep shareholders informed of company progression, whether you and others find such updates disagreeable - as the case maybe.
Given we’ve had current irregularities explained, then they need to be made accurate so no one person is disadvantaged, surely?
It’s difficult at times not to let our emotions get the better of logical reasoning… especially when certain folk on this bb post utter rubbish imv.
Courtesy of the twitter crew, it is Interesting that Shlomo now states :
‘to protect my reputation against the serious harm that would be caused by the making of false and defamatory allegations to third parties’
which can be interpreted as stating that Shlomo now believes there could be serious harm to his reputation with it being alleged that he has association with Amit Ben Haim ?
And now we have their previous ‘partnership’ being removed from ABH’s bio.
Suspecting that the only notifications that we will see of any value, will be those coming from Shlomo Ben Haim.
Whispering, if Amit Ben Haim or 'the company / paying agents' pays anyone eventually (including myself) in the next month (as promised), I will retract anything I have said on this forum and say I was wrong. I somehow feel I won't have to do that because, on the balance of probability, he won't based on the last 12 months promises.
It's also significant that Amit posted (then very rapidly deleted) the details of the Chicago bank that was allegedly holding funds.
Whispering, in my own words. He has lied multiple times in the past. He stated payment dates in updates which have come and gone, mentioned employees that never existed, talked about a 50 million deposit in a named bank that has now been retracted, and made sales claims when Cloudtag was listed on AIM, which turned out to be untrue. How can you call these 'progressive' updates when there is no verifiable progress? The fact that no one has been paid suggests to me that there has been no progress, wouldn't you agree? If there are more updates pushing payment dates again with more excuses, then we have to ask the question, why?
So we are a few days away from it being May.
- not one shareholder contacted
- not one broker contacted
Meanwhile Amit continues to re hash delay updates totally forgetting he spoke about some fund to pay shareholders while the remaining issues got sorted. He's going to totally skip past addressing this as he can't.
Next update will likely be the anomalies have been addressed, notifications will be issued shortly. After which Chandra will post more pathetic twitter posts only for no notifications to materialise.
Does anything else think his predictability is too easy??
"At times"?
I’ve been reading here on and off for the past 7/8 years… hence me calling it the ctag therapy bb
Not much changes other than the slow (and at times misinformation) in the form progressive updates.
You’ve not answered my question
That subject has been discussed to death here but as you recently joined I suggest you read all posts going back 18 months for your answer.
“it's lies in the first instance. Too many rehashed updates, many of which are simply implausible at this late stage – I am being kind!”
Okay then, explain his motive for lying? So often and for so long… in your own words
"Amit's comment about online misinformation did amuse me especially as he's lied constantly for the last 8 years all of which has been proved true, I'm looking forward to the next one."
If Amit is not wise enough to realise people won't just drift away, and to keep telling people they WILL be paid imminently and subsequently not paying them just confirms what a great many think, it's lies in the first instance. Too many rehashed updates, many of which are simply implausible at this late stage – I am being kind!
Strange that the secret agent didn’t spot all those ‘anomalies’ in the 5 weeks or so that they were gearing up to pay out all that cash in nov/dec.
it was only in the very final week of that ‘licence deal’ pay-out process that another update was issued, excusing further delays by reference to the complexities of multiple investment platforms and supposed request from some shareholders to have a choice between £ vs $ payouts … but there was no mention at all of significant delays arising because the shareholding register was fubar…
? so had amit and the secret agent really gone through 5 weeks of supposedly almost completing the licence payout, without noticing any of those supposed serious problems with paper certificate registration even by the very end of that period, at xmas 2023??
… makes one wonder what on earth the secret agent was actually doing all that time.
I reckon Amit's game plan and overall end game here is to keep rehashing the same bs update until people get so bored of it that they simply drift away and write the whole thing off, yes even the most gullible will crack eventually, you will start to see the interval between the bs updates getting longer until it's back to one a year again.
Amit's comment about online misinformation did amuse me especially as he's lied constantly for the last 8 years all of which has been proved true, I'm looking forward to the next one.
“anomalies”
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/23/ex-post-office-boss-paula-vennells-searched-for-non-emotive-words-to-describe-horizon-bugs-inquiry-hears
(maybe it was just a bit of an ‘anomaly’ to update that money was deposited with CIBC? - phew, good job they adjusted that one, eh.)
I understood that a trust fund was created for the shares that couldn’t be settled now so then rest could be paid
Mores BS in the latest update by Amit Christian Anderson
If the anomalies are related to paper certs why haven't Phthose of held with brokers/platforms been paid out?
B3ast
May25 Apr 2024 11:11…
Our/ your (?) conversation perhaps answered in the current update.
Amit reads here, as well as twitter… not quite the response certain folk would want… nevertheless, there you have it. To make it of it what as you will… it’s a response.
None of which would stop people with shares held in nominee accounts being paid now. Bs really…
Part of the latest in an apparently endless series of updates is indeed believable. Amit seems to have forgotten (or never bothered) to log who he was flogging shares to post the company's delist.
That would certainly be in character.
And what will those with teeth be doing about matters? Other than whinging on an anonymous internet forum that is
The most credible update in a long while. Of course it would have been full on party time in 2018/19 after those share sales and who would have time to do the boring paperwork?