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Feel free to list any authorities not recommending the type of test that ODX is trying to sell
https://cara.care/en/diagnostics/blood-tests/igg-tests/
https://www.aaaai.org/tools-for-the-public/conditions-library/allergies/igg-food-test
Nhs also recommend against these tests
Swannie - no they can't
that is why they keep harking on on irrelevant info - eg warrants - which does not counteract a loss making company selling a contentious product
Another one
"There is no strong evidence that these tests accurately identify a food intolerance. In fact, allergy doctors have investigated these tests and they have shown that you’re more likely to be told you have a positive food intolerance to a food you consumer regularly, not one you’re intolerant too."
https://gutscharity.org.uk/advice-and-information/health-and-lifestyle/testing/food-intolerance-testing/#:~:text=a%20food%20intolerance.-,IgG%20Blood%20Test,accurately%20identify%20a%20food%20intolerance.
Another one
"If you are a pediatrician, family practice doctor, naturopath or chiropractor, I beg you to stop ordering broad food allergy panels and food IgG tests. Please."
https://www.healio.com/news/allergy-asthma/20230503/broad-panels-ige-testing-unnecessary-for-food-intolerances-sensitivities#:~:text=Many%20companies%20and%20doctors%20who,food%20allergies%2C%20sensitivities%20or%20intolerances.
Douglas H. Jones, MD, is the cofounder of Global Food Therapy, cofounder and president of Food Allergy Support Team and director of Rocky Mountain Allergy at Tanner Clinic.
Extract from Food Allergy Canada
FACT: Research does not support IgG testing for food allergy. These tests measure levels of IgG (immunoglobulin G) antibodies to foods and claim that removing foods with high levels from the diet can address symptoms and improve health. However, the presence of IgG antibodies indicate exposure and possibly tolerance to a food, not allergy. Due to a lack of evidence supporting their use, IgG tests are not recommended for diagnosing a food allergy, or even a food intolerance or sensitivity.
Medical content reviewed by Dr. Julia Upton, MD, FRCPC, MPH.
Until ODX increase (begin to have)their portfolio of viable products/production for other who have saleable products this can only continue to fall and then what will the BoD to fund their bonus? The more you search for positives from professionals and IgG the worse it seems to get.
Agreed q - odx gave up or sold any of the really strongly credible scientific diagnostic tests they had.
conquering usa is a hard task - very hard place to sell.....and competing with proper sales teams
odx have a sales team that would seem to struggle anyway -
but with a contentious product ????
not surprised no rns with significant contracts
Pretty strong stuff here
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3443017/
It seems they are at the medica trade fair at Dusseldorf.
Https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3443017/
the more i read this - the worse it seems
"Hence, positive test results for food-specific IgG are to be expected in normal, healthy adults and children. Furthermore, the inappropriate use of this test only increases the likelihood of false diagnoses being made, resulting in unnecessary dietary restrictions and decreased quality of life."
"Additionally, and perhaps of greater potential concern, a person with a true immunoglobulin E (IgE)-mediated food allergy, who is at significant risk for life-threatening anaphylaxis, may very well not have elevated levels of specific IgG to their particular allergen, and may be inappropriately advised to reintroduce this potentially deadly item into their diet."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3443017/
From: Alimentary Pharmacology and Therapeutics (https://doi.org/10.1111/apt.13041)
Unvalidated tests
There are a number of commercially available unvalidated tests that patients often undertake due to their degree of desperation to find out what foods might be responsible for their symptoms (see Table 4). These patients are a particularly vulnerable group and such investigations should not be encouraged as there is a lack of evidence to support their use, they can be extremely costly and most importantly often lead patients to inappropriately over-restrict their diet which can limit nutritional adequacy and lead to undernutrition, and detrimentally affect the social aspects of their quality of life.
To be hoped there are viable products in the pipeline as posters on here keep making reference to, but we all know the timelines to get any medical products to market.
Surprised nobody has bought the test and seen if any good
I think we know the answer as its expensive and those on giro money who need it wont buy
"The value of the global food allergy and sensitivity industry is expected to hit a whopping $24.8 billion US by 2020. And with food sensitivity tests specifically ranging in cost from more than $100 to nearly $400, companies are cashing in on the craze."
Dr. Douglas Mack, a pediatric allergy, asthma and immunology specialist, argues the results of an IgG test are an indication that you had exposure to the foods — not an intolerance of them.
IgG tests measure levels of an antibody known as Immunoglobulin G — or IgG, for short.
"It should be used to track whether a patient actually is developing tolerance, not intolerance," he said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/food-sensitivity-intolerance-tests-blood-marketplace-1.4886592
Worth a read of this thred - if in any doubts on the product and usa target market etc
"Beware of IgG test for food intolerance: scaremongering and rip-offs"
"Experts and doctors agree: the IgG test is not suitable for diagnosing food intolerance!"
– Prof. Stefan Lüth, MD, Clinic Director, Chief Physician and Medical Director of the Clinic for Gastroenterology, Diabetology and Hepatology at the Brandenburg City Hospital.
!For patients this means: Beware of IgG tests from the Internet: The tests are mostly expensive and cannot deliver what they promise. A provider who advertises that their IgG test is "safe and reliable" ignores the results of scientific studies and petitions of many allergy associations and deceives patients with this statement. The associations are clearly opposed to the use of the IgG tests."
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One has to wonder if odx have good insurance in a litigation minefield like usa?
If anyone wants to read what leading USA authority says on igg tests like odx tries to sell..it is below on thread.
Sailorman you are out of date, too many mistakes been made. 🤓 People have been watching for months.
From American academy of allergies..you know id target market!
it is important to understand that this test has never been scientifically proven to be able to accomplish what it reports to do. The scientific studies that are provided to support the use of this test are often out of date, in non-reputable journals and many have not even used the IgG test in question. The presence of IgG is likely a normal response of the immune system to exposure to food. In fact, higher levels of IgG4 to foods may simply be associated with tolerance to those foods."
From Canadian allergy society
Additionally, and perhaps of greater potential concern, a person with a true immunoglobulin E (IgE)-mediated food allergy, who is at significant risk for life-threatening anaphylaxis, may very well not have elevated levels of specific IgG to their particular allergen, and may be inappropriately advised to reintroduce this potentially deadly item into their diet.
This has law suit written all over it...in a country that is litigation happy..eg target market of USA
Maybe best they don't sell much there?
Just thought i would nudge this thread up again - if anyone wants the science on why not to pin your hopes on expanding into the usa
Across the country, Carr is having similar conversations. He says he often has people who have had IgG tests get referred to him – and he has to explain to them that they’ve paid big bucks for something that offers no useful information. “When I see a patient come into my clinic, and they say we had this [IgG] test done, they will reach in their bag and try to hand me this booklet of results,” he says. “I’ll say, I don’t need to see that, and explain why we can ignore it.”
22 billion plus industry captain, keep smearing away......