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I'll say this right now. I believe your all going to look like Lemons by the end of this calenders year. How's that for my confidence & I'll be laughing my Ar## off & reminding you all of your pathetic negative trolling. You are probably dealers trying to drive down the share price to Rob the proper investors by trying to sew doubt ( Pathetic ). It is my belief that you should have to prove your occupation & who you work for before you can join this site.
So you think if AFC deliver on the £27m order book the company will have a value of £300m ? That’s what you’re saying, the broker forecast based on the current order book not including any further orders.
Afc Energy Brilliant tech.
Well if that's what you believe, that's your choice. The Broker average fircast of 76.60p in the next 12 months. So in 3 years time I believe 27m fircast will look like chicken feed now that Afc are up & running. Mass assembly & manufacturing virtually already in place. Tamgo, Acciona orders, Speedy Hire, Tier 1 construction companies, chemical companies, ABB charging, Data centre's & the brilliant Moduler Ammonia Cracker tech. You are all going to look like right Lemons in one years time. Mark my words.
No, no and thrice no. All forecasts are forward looking - the clue's in the name!
@hicon
Bitte entschuldige nochmals, dass ich etwas doppelt gepostet habe. Bei den vielen Nachrichten die hier Täglich gepostet werden.
Ich meinte nicht dich, sondern allgemein, dass ich keine Beiträge lese, weil viele hier im Forum AFC und Investierte schlecht machen. Das sind zu 80% Beleidigungen persönliche Angriffe, der Umgangston ist nicht angemessen.
Gitfinger,
Yet you are the one who is still here after many years spinning the same old crap! If AFC was as bad as you make out, you’d have left this board years ago! Yet you mindlessly bemoan the company year after year! There must be an ulterior motive for this ridiculous behaviour!
If you think it’s that bad, leave this board!
I haven’t looked on here for weeks and the first name I recognise is Gitfinger!
Go figure everyone- either a disgruntled ex-employee or a shorter (Helikon maybe?) or a just a sad person with no life whatsoever.
Bye for another few weeks.
The Only thing that is factored in is the 27m over three years from existing orders they know about. 6m 1st year 12m 2nd year & 27m upto 3 years. I expect this order book which was at end of match will only grow with mass manufacturing in place & so will broker forcasts.
@Stefan
Du kannst mit mir deutsch reden. Ich mache AFC nicht schlecht, bin selber investiert, Du sollst nur nicht doppelt posten!
You can speak German with me. I don't do AFC badly, I'm invested myself, you just shouldn't post twice!
‘Look, if Afc were even the lowest broker target price that is double the share price now. Excluding future orders from Tamgo, Tier 1 construction companies, chemical companies. The Ammonia cracker & any other orders we will get.’
You just don’t get it CN, the price targets ARE based on expected orders ! Why do you not understand that ? If the price target isn’t factoring those in then what exactly do you think it is factoring in ???
Git, if it was my job the drive the price down, I would take a long holiday, its doing a great job all by itself.
So you think the only thing included in the 40p target price (less than half where we were four years ago) is what? Speedy?
Makes me laugh!
McStock and all of the other poor (well, they are now!) souls who can't see the wood for the trees keep batting on about the doubters only posting because they want to drive the price down.....well, I'll let you into a little secret.
If there was an intent to drive the price down by some malign organisation or whatever, they certainly don't need any help from the little people who post on here, because their greatest ally is the company itself, and its overpaid, thick skinned tone deaf CEO. The massive gravity of the combination of lack of sales, smoke and mirrors, and continued moving on to "the next big thing" , be that product, MOU, partnership, JV or whatever provides a sufficiently large black hole of confidence with remotely sensible investors to drag the share price down all on its own.
So who really needs con man trader trolls....certainly not those who want / need to see the share price fall....
Look, if Afc were even the lowest broker target price that is double the share price now. Excluding future orders from Tamgo, Tier 1 construction companies, chemical companies. The Ammonia cracker & any other orders we will get.
@hicon, unfortunately, there are so many people here trying to badmouth AFC. It could be people or organizations who have bet on falling prices and personally attack anyone who says something. That's why I only open left-handed and don't read any more posts. I can't understand them and I don't understand why everything has to be bad. Why do they have no positive prospects for AFC and if so, why did they buy shares in the first place? Why don't they sell their shares if they have them and buy a few more shares if they believe in them at low prices and in their opinion the outlook is positive? Why are they invested in a company where they have no future prospects? Everyone can think what they want. But sometimes I think they represent the oil lobby and are trying to damage AFC. Sorry for double-tapping. The article said that ammonia will play an important role.
I don't think you are the same person as Haggis but you share the same attitude to people who prefer civilised discussion to routine abuse. So the average target price is nearly 80p? But the latest update is 40p? So there is at least one broker whose target is three times the most recent update and six times the current price? Yes, I know that's simplistic maths but in principle do you think that such widely divergent targets smack of precise analysis and credibility? I don't.
Yes it is, the average broker price across all brokers is on Investing.coms Afc Energy page &:as of 1 minute ago it is 76.60p. Or is that to hard for your tiny brain. Even the lowest forcast you keep spouting is twice the price the share is now. Get a life.
Maybe 50 or 60 years ago the UK could lead something but I don't think we lead anything now or could manage to lead anything in the future unless radical changes take place. Certainly can't see any future Gov having the ability to comprehend the magnitude putting an infrastructure in place. We will lag behind as usual and end up costing a fortune later down the line.
Will you answer the question re whether RBC's latest target of 40p is included in that calculation?
You never answer a question CN, just plough on regardless. I am (too) heavily invested in this to want anything other than for it to rocket but anyone who hasn't developed a healthy sense of cynicism over the last few years is bonkers really. Imagine how you'd feel if you'd had millions of certificated shares in a floor safe when they were priced at above 80p and now they were worth a quarter of that?
From the link below RBC have said - ‘AFC Energy has set expectations for sales of £6 million in 2024 and £12 million in 2025, a significant increase from £200,000 in 2023.’
But we have an order book of £27m I hear you say.
Why the difference ? £6m plus £12m is only £18m, and that’s expected sales !!!
your dumb **** plan to bring down the share price won't work. dummies. everyone is wise to your hidden agendas ( scumbags)
And why is that dum dum ? Because there are no orders from TAMGO, look how long we’ve been partnered with Altaaqa, nothing came from that, just the name on the tin has been changed. The Tier 1 construction companies are already factored in to the not committed order book of £27m, any tier 1 companies will simply be directed to hiring from Speedy, AFC don’t want to be involved in maintenance contracts.
Don't listen to the negative idiots on here spouting their crap for their hidden agenda.
Have you built RBC's 40p target into that meaningless calculation CN? At least a couple of years ago Haggis was trying to persuade us that the 195p target (I forget who pushed that nonsense, Peel Hunt maybe?) was based on a Discounted Cash Flow calculation despite the fact that then and since then there has barely been any cash flow to discount. Ain't no pinch of salt big enough.