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I really thought we had dealt with all this automatic trade nonsense.
It's nothing to do with market rigging.
In the USA over 50% of all trades are A trades.
It's not much less here.
If you don't believe me go look at any share and you will see A trades.
We are looking at woeful daily volume.
We cannot even get ten million a day.
I have learnt so much over the last year reading people's posts and I'm grateful quady keeps me grounded from thinking investing is a walk in the park redknight has taken time to answer some of my amateur observations and keeps me up beat that maybe in the not to distant future the SP will be two or three times this level however with all that's happened in last six months I'm scratching my head wondering how we are below 20p I don't know how to short stocks but there seems to be more money to Be made that way Than any other way!
The market is full of various participants whether autobot via algorithms programs or simply tagged to ETF ebbs and flows... at end of the day the market is a place for trading, investing and always open to abuse with FCA relatively toothless on the minor stuff (we are not talking BP or Glencore here are we!?).
The ARB traders / players have a more accurate timeline now the company has updated them all with news that new shares should be issued early March. That said.... if I were Scott and looking for brownie points (and they need them) I'd aim to give guidance that I can refreshingly beat rather than overrun on again. So you never know... you might get an RNS saying prospectus published and new shares to be issued next week.
Then again... this is SOLG!
Algos are just a means to an end to rig the market and the SP of a stock...imo
Lol Red just ignore …..
That makes a lot of sense DBW, but
Why, day after day are the majority of trades in SOLG ALGO trades? Its not as if they're making much money if they are trading in and out...
Anyhow, I looked at ENQUEST, which is also a SETS Stock and I can now see exactly what you mean.
Out of 268 trades the majority are ALGOs...
Thanks again.
Red I’ll try ….. Solgold is on SETS (Solgold’s chosen trading platform)whereas the other two are on SEAQ ( a platform for less liquid stocks) where there’s no DMA for automatic trades
If you look at the trades he will see they’re all off book
SEAQ doesn’t have DMA it’s market makers only so you don’t get A trades or “algos”
Cheers DBW
You seem to be a decent bloke and one of the most cinstructive posters on here...
And yet I can't help noticing that even you have come in for unwarranted and sometimes vitriolic abuse sometimes...
Is this the society we live in now...?
So can somebody who really understands ALGO/Autobot trades explain to me why, out if the first 168 trades today, 116 were ALGOS, during which the SP fell 5% to 13.26?
While meanwhile, GGP had ZERO in 113 trades
ATYM ZERO from 20
KOD Zero from 272
etc...
Red just ignore it , hopefully in a few weeks or months none of us will need to visit this bb anymore as it’ll be redundant.
Wonder if they’ll surprise us and get the completion notice out ahead of time ….. on time would surprise most of us ….. I’d it the final hurdle to a bid or is h to hear something more to come?
Best wishes DBW
And I also feel sad for the 8 people so far who have ticked up his post:
"If you've anything between the ears"
"his lying"
"his sob stories "
I hope you guys are proud of yourselves...
Or maybe you're also trolls who hide behind anonymity, bravely ticking AgAdCu's post without identifying yourselves...
This has been a well mannered board in general, except for a few people hellbent on destroying it.
Are you proud to be part of such negativity and unpleasantness when we are all sat here hoping for the same big payday?
What would your children think of you if they knew you had ticked up such an offensive post where the poster could instead have simply put forward reasoined arguments against what I posted which, if they showed me to be wrong or uninformed, I could have apologised for.
I can't wait for SOLG to be taken over. If you were to read my 7,247 posts on LSE over the last 13 years, you would see that I try always to be objective; maintain a positive and upbeat manner in the face of adversity; try to hel fellow Members when they ask...
Sad to say that when the final bid comes I shall be left with the memory of all the nasty posters rather than the vast majority who are constructive, objective and pleasant of manner.
And in closing, if you think these posts have been written in anger, you couldn't be more wrong.
Thats the tragedy of it...
"his sob stories..."
You've clearly never had nor known anybody who has had cancer.
If you had, you would swallow hard and realise what a seriously unpleasant person you are to post the above.
If you ever have known someone important to you who has had cancer or worse still died from it, you may now reflect on the gross insult you have paid them.
AgArCU
You've been a Member here for 15 days, during which you have posted a mere 44 times.
You have absolutely no idea about my CV.
Today you have taken the time to post one of the most aggressively offensive posts I have ever received.
Sad to say that I have reported you.
Are you like this to your wife/partner? Your friends/family?
You hide behind anonymity and frankly behave like a bully who expects no comeback.
Do you think your post will win many friends here when those same people may one day be subject to your uninformed nasty rants?
I pray for yur soul.
Red, this is consistently your most blatant BS. Your misunderstanding of market forces is one thing, but I have seen loads of posters explain 'Algo' (lol) trades to you before. If you've anything between the ears, you have understood each of these simplified explanations, and yet you still trot out this rubbish about a Boogeyman that destroys our otherwise imperious march towards a massive market cap... Meaning your either doing it for a reaction or you feel it is in your interests to convince the uninformed readers of a small internet message board that there are evil forces driving down their investment.
To every sane poster here, how do we stop this nonsense? He's tireless in his ramping, his lying (see ever expanding CV!), his sob stories and his fictitious trades. When be isn't telling us about tiny volume trades reported on Christmas day in canada (personal low point hey, Red?!)
Surely these things are enough to get him banned? And no, I won't filter him- it isn't right that someone gets to put as much misinformation as him here. His thousands of repetitive, irritating posts need to stop.
Decent vume, a bit of a battle at the mo between buyers and stale holders, miners off a fair bit today not helping. May recover later today...
Morning Red
Generally a tough day for the market so far …. Miners especially
Yes but 61 of those 82 trades were ALGOs...messing the market...constantly...
Every time we get some traction, the ALGOs seem to smash us down again...
750 traded in the first hour and not a peep from anyone.
Big day today from a trading point of view. Chatter is swirling and the company appears to being given one last chance by investors.
Question is whether we have any stale shareholders backing out at the same time.
I know DM, I looked back later and saw that.
I was hoping nobody was taking any notice....................
Correct DM … was different
DBW see you tomorrow at 7am you never know !!:):)
Jezz
Won’t necessarily appear today or at all, it just flashed up and was gone soon after
Either they pulled it or it got taken out and will show up
about that 478,728 @ 13.90 buy that they accidentally printed and then recalled.
It turned up at 4.35pm
And they printed it as UT
It's a funny old world isn't it ?
In fact although I’ve added a reasonable amount recently my biggest frustration is I didn’t get more in the twelves because ii took forever to get funds from another provider.
As for worrying once you press the button there’s no point ….. massive upside soon to be realised here.
Worry factor 2
Frustration factor 8
Upside factor 10