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It may well now include DMS for new models but it is not definitive.
It is correct S2020 - the ID4 Spec since 01/01/2024 includes the exact term and does not include DMS.
What terms are used elsewhere does not negate that fact.
I also think it's camera based DMS on the Golf, Polo etc (Advanced driver attention & drowsiness monitor). In contrast to the ID3, which I guess is the steering wheel based stuff (Driver alert system, fatigue detection).
Thats not correct Glandore, when I configure an ID4 on the VW website I get
"Technology and safety
Driver alert system, fatigue detection"
Thats not DMS
Unfortunately » "Advanced driver attention & drowsiness monitor" is a term which has been in place in VW for over 6 months. It is in the ID4 spec since January and is merely a cover term for the various sensors, Lane crossing alerts etc.
It does not definitively mean that DMS in camera mode is included.
Need to research a bit more before jumping to conclusions and adding 2 + 2 to give 5.
I do if you fancy unbanning my account? m.3 (@M3C2V)
Https://jsd-solutions.com/work/advanced-driving-assistance/
A comment from a company who worked on the VW Mirror mounted camera.....
Nice spot that seeing2020. I'd got to thinking we were only going to be in VW EV platforms based on a post from Colin back in Jan, but you can clearly see 'Advanced driver attention & drowsiness monitor' under the Golf petrol vehicles.
Hopefully, we get in a decent number of vehicles with both VW and BMW. Who knows where we stand with Ford Bluecruise.
Jesus we are in loads of models, 5 mins playing with the configurator and I found
ID.7
Golf 8.5
New Tiguan
New Touareg
New T-Cross
New Passat
I am glad to know that PM is busy making sure all the workers that work for VW are clocking in to work on time. Shows how little I know, here is me thinking that a CEO job is to provide strategic direction lead negotiation teams to negotiate contracts.
Anyway it does not matter what we spout here positive or negative. Sometimes PI have a higher estimation of their influence on the share price. The truth is that at the moment irrespective of what we think, the market is voting that he is not performing and the share price is following suit. If anyone thinks that any investor will come here and buy the shares because I said it is the best thing since sliced bread or because I said it is the worst since the plague then they are deluding themselves.
They will do their research, judge the potential market size, listen to a few of PM presentations and ..that is where the doubt starts cropping in. He says one thing as and does not deliver to any type of timeline. Unlike some that have become emotionally attached to their shares the newbie will make a cold eyed decision whether he can trust the team to do what they are saying they will do, based on past promises.
There are a host of professional investors around and they have not started to pile in even at this price. When SEE starts delivering we will see hoards of professional investors coming in. Even the broker that is paid by SEE to promote good vibes has not exactly said bet your farm on it while some PI are saying ÂŁ2 by next month.
We must all be better investors than the professionals and that is why we have time to hang around on this BB thinking that what anyone says has much influence on the share price. The percentage of SEE share holders that read this BB is infinitesimal.
Itâs turned from looking like an almost cert to a hopeful punt. Some of the nonsense McGlone has spouted over the years and the telegram clappers still hang on his every utterance and every LinkedIn post he likes. Thatâs fine but if you dare question it youâre either a paid shill/short/deramper etc. if the next 2 Kpiâs arenât great ( and a lot of the clappers are putting their faith in them) then what. Whatâs the next excuse. The market clearly isnât convinced no matter how many times McGlone likes a LinkedIn post from someone at Valeo or magna.
You just need to go onto the configurator on the VW website, clearly shows the DMS as standard on all trims.
Link below might work
https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/en/new/golf.html#build
Hi See20
Where does it say - The base model (and all other models) includes this "Advanced driver attention & drowsiness monitor"
Can you send the link ?
Https://www.volkswagen-newsroom.com/en/press-releases/eight-generations-in-50-years-the-year-2024-is-all-about-the-golf-at-volkswagen-18025
The Golf quickly became a true âVolkswagenâ, and the first million units were sold as early as 1976. More than 37 million vehicles have been delivered to date. This makes the compact car the most successful European car, the best-selling Volkswagen of all time â and an icon.
The new Golf 8.5 starts rolling of the production line today.
You can now use the configurator on the VW website.
The base model (and all other models) includes this "Advanced driver attention & drowsiness monitor" so that's our tech in all models of the best selling car in Europe over the last number of decades.
So perhaps Paul and the team have been busy ensuring their biggest win to date gets to SoP.
Great news for an genuine holder.
Hopefully all those that believe SEE can do no wrong and PG is doing a great job will migrate to the telegram group.
That will leave us this space to actually talk about the share, warts and all, see things as it really is. Praise when it merits praise and criticise when it merits.
When share price is falling I prefer to say that it is falling and not instead think that it is a godsend and an opportunity to buy more. If PM tells me that X will happen at such a time, I would like to believe him. I will even give him the benefit of the doubt if if happens on X + 4-5 months but not at X + 1, 2 or3 years. If it did not happen I will like to call him out and not make excuses for him. If we can't trust his utterances then why do we then believe anything else he says, or do we just believe when it suits our narrative?
If he does not know, then he should keep mum. The issue I have is that his time scales is so far out that you wonder if he has a handle on what is happening at all. The irony is lost on some posters who when you say the CEO should do better , and the stock answer is why are you invested if you do not believe the CEO is doing a great job. Within the next breadth they will complain that the AIM market is so poor and lacks good valuation, you then wonder, if their reason is allied to their advice to you, why they are investing in AIM stock if they think that it does not deliver good valuation?
YES I am still invested solely because this company has a great product, I have however de-risked by moving 3 quarters of my investment elsewhere, but I still have a significant amount here. When I initially invested, I believed this stock was a shoe in, now I am just hopeful.
Borrowing the words on PM in one of his presentations a couple of years ago, it is now a question of delivery.
That is just my tuppence worth. No investment advice intended or implied.
I hope your getting down to confession on sunday chutz....you need to atone before its too lateđ
The good lord dont like rampers thats obvious but fraudsters go straight into the oven and no messing.....im ok because i have a good excuseđ
You must have enough material by now from your posts for a book.
I salute your pointless drivel
Same as it was 10, 15 and 20 years ago!
But the ones i feel sorry for are the poor folks who bought in at treble the price in 2018 only for the bod to start their cash grab.
A 25 year loss making company who have made their executive team multi millionaires with salaries and bonuses only......that does not include the free shares and options they have!
They should be ashamed, those who support them should be ashamed but they are hanging for grim death in the hope that someone will take them over.
Intrinsically, they are not going to make it unless they take a massive gamble but that will almost certainly end in failure then its goodnight eileen.
They're a basket case and nobody wants them.....shareholders had a chance back then but they were forsaken by the bod and are now being driven head first into the land that time forgotâș
Nicely managed if your were profiteering from it thoughđ
Maplinman,
A) you have no idea what the auto numbers will be
B) and aren't willing to make any prediction
A) is correct and therefore B) is the logical extension.....
However you missed the more important point of the post guestimating what volumes are needed for Breakeven - the first significant threshold for the company to reach from here.....
Will be anything from 50p to ÂŁÂŁ join telegram. Say something even mildly questioning and warren will be on at you in his arrogant condescending manner and then youâll be barred. Only join if you are a 100% Uber positive and donât give a f*** that your investment is worth the same it was a decade ago
Does that link say Paul mcglone worship group?
Or the it's not all about the share price group?
Now you're just being silly. We don't all want to be happy clappy...
link=*************seeingmachines
sadly this group has turned into an average bickering aim discussion board.
any newbies or people who are genuine holders that want a grown discussion on the pro's and cons of sm should join the telegram group, link below.
*************seeingmachines