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Good points. I think the lesson to learn from this one is to be sceptical about ramping around NASDAQ listings. One of my other big shares is ARB and people on that board are constantly talking about a NASDAQ listing that is expected in the coming months like it is going to boost the share price quite a bit. It won't but as with DDDD, I expect the price to rocket on the announcement and then fall back to where it was.

When I first bought into this share my average was 1.30 and the price soon fell to 1.20. I figured that share price was based on the company's progress because there were a lot of posts and tweets about the company being undervalued compared to its peers. Then along came the pump and dump con artists as we approached NASDAQ listing and I fell for that on the day, buying a fair bit more stock and taking my average to 1.39.

Because of that, I don't feel too comfortable averaging down because I'll have more invested in this stock than I would like. If we retreat to silly levels like 80p I'll consider it because it will take fewer funds to get to 1.20ish but right now I'd have to double my holding just to reach 1.26. I can't put a number on where this stock should be priced, I guess the market will decide over the next week or so as we stop falling. 120-130p looked good a week ago but that seemed to have some early NASDAQ hype priced into it.

"Perhaps question your expectations?"

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a share's value to not plummet 20% in three days after you purchase it when there has been no negative news. But I agree with your other point, it is indeed only a loss if you sell lower than you buy it.

These kinds of posts are on par with the rampers.

"I hope you all lose money so I can get in cheaper!!!"

It took me by surprise too. I had assumed negative results were expected and priced in due to the cinemas being shut for so long. I pretty much doubled up my holding today in the dip as I don't think we'll see prices lower than this again unless something catastrophic happens with Covid.

Pipeline catalysts? I looked through the forum history of this share and when I checked October 7th an RNS about Blautix was released. The share price plummeted from 170p to around 120p. I think it will be the same for future trial news. The share will be pumped by traders in the weeks leading up to it and then plummet on the day the news comes.

He may or may not end up being right, but his comments are antagonising when people are losing money due to the falling share price. Wouldn't surprise me if he was here a week ago under a different account posting about rockets.

Definitely seems like the right thing to do flowerpot. Although you can guarantee the one time I try it we'll be hit with some good RNS new and the price takes off.

I was panicking yesterday but I held. I'm not selling for a loss. Now that the share price appears to have stabilised I'm less worried. Still heavily in the red but I've stopped panicking.

I agree with everything you said. To be honest the point in your title should be enough. If people listen to random people on a board over facts and figures from the CEO they shouldn't be investing.

Agreed. There is so much positivity in their plans. https://secure.emincote.com/client/cineworld/cineworld016/files/20200325_2020_Prelim_PresentationvF.pdf

It doesn't justify the 10% drop in share price. I can see the next couple of years being huge for cinema as so many films were delayed from last year, plus people wanting to get back to living their lives and doing fun things like cinema trips.

Hold. It will come good. I don't think it will stay below £1 for long. But that's just my opinion. My average is 103 after averaging down from 110. I was in when it went to 125p as well. Should have taken profit and bought back in lower but you can't time the market.

I'm not expecting a big boost from NASDAQ. We'll probably get ramped to high levels when it happens and then the traders sell and we go back to normal levels. Hard for me to be optimistic as I'm invested in DDDD and saw what happened. We'll move more on positive RNSs and bitcoin moving up.

I've averaged down. Was originally in around 110p. Hope it pays off.

My mistake wasn't so much buying in at 130p, but doubling up at 149p thinking that was the last chance to get in at these levels. I obviously listened too much to the pump and dumpers and in hindsight I don't know why I expected listing on NASDAQ to take the share to new base levels as nothing has changed in terms of what DDDD are doing. I'll learn from it.

"what is your rationale for 130-140 now being a bad entry point?"

The fact the share price is now 117p two days later (or 105p going off LOACs). If 130-140p was a good entry point it wouldn't be down so much since that entry point. I mean, I could have gotten more shares for my money if I didn't get sucked into the hype around NASDAQ. My worry is how low it is going to get before it stabilises.

It's all good holding for the longterm but if the trials don't come good your loss is based on your entry point - so in my view a higher entry point equates to a higher risk. I was relieved today that it only fell to 117p as I was expecting 110p, but now I'm hearing 105p over in the US?

I wouldn't say it was a scattershot approach. I've been trying to diversify my portfolio and I'd read some good things about 4D. A lot of what I know comes from BlogShrey on Twitter. I did plenty DD on this one before investing, that's why I was confident enough to make it my second biggest holding. But clearly something dodgy has gone on with the share price lately. I had assumed the price was based on what DD has in the pipeline, being undervalued compared to its peers etc. I didn't consider that the price might actually be too high.

I'm not sure what is rude about that Wigscoff88. I agree with everything you just said. I've only been investing since February so yes I do have a lot to learn still and that is why I'm falling for these scams. I have become more patient since I started. When you've not been in the game long it's difficult to spot trends in prices and for DDDD at least 130-140p looked like a good entry point. Now it doesn't any more because it looks like it was pumped to those prices by people with motives to dump.

It's probably the old "buy the rumour, sell the news". People pumping shares to ridiculous levels before the news and then when the RNS comes they dump their shares because they've been pumped higher than the news was worth. No doubt DDDD will be pumped again when we are expecting trial results, and drop afterwards even if the results are good.

I got spiked with PREM recently. I thought (and still do think) DDDD and GDR are good investments, I just can't figure out what's going on with the share price and looks like I bought both at the wrong time.

I've got shares in Genedrive as well. Down 12% as I must have bought at the peak. Was that also a pump and pump? I'm having no luck. At least it is a small holding for me, unlike DDDD.