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Writing has been on the wall for nearly two years now but rampers still can't accept Aaa, yh, whoever he is on here, just might be right in this current situation. Forget the previous 7 years he's been slating, you're only conning yourself not listening now.

Highly doubt they are F1M games, I would expect an announcement soon to say they are dropping F1M24 but continuing support on existing releases (F1M 23).

Can see this being a roller coaster until announcement of new game next FY.

Taken it off games console? It's designed for console, that's one of the main problems for PC users, it's fruitless and the UI is horrendous.

Imo, they chose the wrong games engine for this title, potential for improvement & added content is seriously restricted. FD would need to spend a similar budget as F1M22 to bring in the required fixes, the game needs redesigning from scratch but we already know that's not going to happen.

CEO needs removing from position.

It would have been a reason to celebrate, he was awful. However, reviews for new Warhammer sing a similar song to F1M, the problem is much deeper than just community managers, CEO is out of his depth imo.

Would not touch this until major restructuring, then maybe sit on it for a few years as a gamble.

Who are the reviews by? Potential customers or gaming websites like IGN? If the latter, they also gave F1M 8-9/10 when in reality its more like 5-6/10.

Do not listen to these reviews for investing advice.

I've been thinking same about your last part, thought I was overreacting, does seem to be something going on here.

Or, its what AAAA1111 said about designing pc games for console, strategy games should 100% be PC first.

Going for the full market has ended up with games that should only be available on App Stores, not sure they've even figured it out themselves yet...

Or, we go back to ShearClass's last comment and they don't actually care how poor these products are with the option of going private.

Either way it's a mess & another Tr1 on its way, imo.

& below 400 ;( Sorry Swingman, only trying to help people save money these days.

Hi 404x

My thinking was everyone who played or looked at 22 knew how bad it was, the communication 2 month after release gave the impression Frontier would be giving up on 22 to fix the game for 23, so expectations was already low and tempters were already flaring. The 40% drop came as 6 month sales got released along with a reduced forcast, big investors and customers knew 23 would still not be the game they desired, thats where I believed it was already partly priced in to the SP, not the price of the game, that'd make no sense.

If Frontier had implememted & promoted a host of new wanted features and content in the build up to release for 23 the SP would not be below 650 imo, so again, I think it was 'partly' priced in, not fully ffs!

Do my other posts lead you to believe I haven't read the reviews or being involved on that side? That's why I'm here, to highlight the growing venom towards the F1 Manager team from potential customers and give a warning that this isn't just bad, it could be catastrophic for Frontier if they try the same again for 24.

Damn right nobody will buy just an updated 22 for £45, again, thats why im on here & that's why it's tanking as more information come to light and the communication with the F1 Manager department becomes more toxic. Customers are rightly livid at the price to content ratio and been taken for mugs due to the licence.

My 'partly priced in' quote was to also show I'm not a shorter or have an agenda to drag the SP down.

Read carefully;

If 23 was expected to have a raft of new features, content, no bugs & great AI then the SP of Frontier would have been much higher than 600 before release as anticipation grew. It wasn't! Why? IT WAS ALREADY PARTLY PRICED IN THIS YEAR WOULD ALSO BE SH*T. Anyone else not understand that? This could easily go below 400 for sure, I wouldn't want it to but if they don't get a grip of this situation big investors will look elsewhere, if they're not already. The continual 5% drops don't come from just PI's selling. I expect a tr1 to state a reduced investment by some big boys.

Tbh I'm not clued up on what it'll exactly do to SP but I do know this release was somewhat expected by customers and has somehow fell below those already low expectations.

Surly this years is partly priced in already, everyone knew it was just a updated 22, a little more to go for sure with it looking like worse figures than 22 but another 40% drop would be surprising without additional bad news. I'd be looking for confirmation they are developing 24, and what they plan for it.

For anyone interested, go to Steam and read the discussion board for customer sentiment. Imo, The senior team running F1 Manager have to go, All of them! (Some already have by looks of vacant positions)

Communication in discussion boards has become extremely toxic with some getting banned for posting negative reviews, I have not been banned so not being salty on my side. However, the reviews were honest, no doubt had statements of dissatisfaction (not offensive) but most importantly are a shared optinion by many if not most of potential buyers.

Most potential customers waited for guinea-pig reviews before thinking of buying and are still holding off. They already knew how weak this game still was when screen shots came out with no sign of the simple features they asked for... Speculation was confirmed on release!

Shareholders & stakeholders need to get involved with this department, no doubt this team is destroying any reputation Frontier had with a chunk of the F1 community.

Unless this title gets a complete overhaul I honestly don't see it reaching years 4 & 5.

The reviews on Steam are currently 'Mixed', only 326 reviews with some positive reviews not exactly being positive reviews, just positive so they either dont get deleted or by mistake i guess, its a strange world. The low number of reviews, good or bad isn't a great sign to start with, should easily be over 1000 reviews by now. Imo, initial viewing of gameplay really disappointed potential buyers which have held off and are still holding off as the dev team also ask current customers to do bug testing for them. This department is really taking the p*ss out of customers at every step.

As a self proclaimed die hard of F1, it's been hard not to buy this game but there is no way I'd spend £45 on this game, especially with the lack of progression from Y1 to Y2. For me, its worth about £15 at most in its current form, it will no doubt see bumper sales on discount weeks but I can see this being a shocker.

Again, the lead designer, senior designer (already gone i think), PR Team and anyone else dictating what 'does' or mostly 'does not' get included in this game need to go, imo they don't have a clue what potential this game has or how to reach it. Only those showing signs of dissatisfaction with this game should be allowed to stay.

This title has the potential to be a game changer for Sports Management games (& SP) but they need to listen to what customers want and do it!

What customers are asking for is reasonable & evident in other AAA titles with similar pricing, they are not asking over and beyond, with most features expected as a minimum for a licenced game such as F1 Manager.

Apologies for the long post, just want the best for this title, for gameplay and a rise in SP. To say Games are Frontiers business, I'm suprised and insulted at what they are offering here. Hopefully a little exposure and pressure will get things moving in a much better direction.

All imo,

From playing almost every sports manager game out there & holding games to a high standard like a few of Frontiers previous releases, I can confirm this is not there.

Just wait for 'Customer' reviews, IGN are not buying thousands of copies.

Race replay a show stealer... Not true. Wasn't asked for, a waste of resources when base game need much improvement & will not result in increased sale, imo.

Enjoyable to listen to... Far too repetitive.

Relaxing to treat it like an actual race and just chill out and watch... because there isn't much else to do.

F1 Manager 2023 is a deep sports management experience... Again, not true! It's about as deep as a shot glass! Attention to detail is only evident in graphics.

Far too much content missing from this game, customers are not happy about not being listened to, many see through the BS the Dev team are pushing and refunds are already being requested.

Price to content & complexity of gameplay is way off. I see no future for this series in its current form. Unfortunately.

F1 or FIA need to pull the plug on Frontier with F1 manager 23. Honestly, this series will be known as the worst sports manager game of modern times. Do not rely on this game for favourable sales or a good potential catalyst. It's broken, it has no content, only graphics. Pricing is way out for it's value, this will not fulfil its potential in any way. The team developing this game need to go! resign or be sacked, whichever is cheapest.

Frontier have really let customers down with this release, lied about listening to feedback and introduced new content that wasn't asked for and is hardly a selling point in its own strength anyway.

This title will be a bigger flop than last year, IMO.

You can also buy above 8... sit back and watch it grow over the coming years. :)
Today was a good day to double up.
Imo

L2 looking good... biggest tree shake in a few £b mcap company I've seen sinse lockdown ended.
Imo, Charts suggesting 820-850 finish range.

Anyone got some background on Peel Hunt... still relatively new to this in regards of knowing brokers etc. However, PH have brought volatility to at least 3 shares I'm in now. Is that their MO? Thanks in advance.

Good chance of 800+ today... this well rebound hard. Nothing has changed!

Get felt manraj! You even know what sector we're in?

Thank you Peel Hunt... great top up/entry opportunity... this will bounce after today, gifting a easy 30% short/mid term... imo