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Hi TL.
- Have to disagree with your there on my 'frentic typing doing little to validate my theory'. On the contrary I intend to prove it does.

Consider:
You have posted off and on here regularily all this year (I assume, yes?) I've double checked and I last posted on VOD in mid November - last year.

Now, IN ONE SINGLE NIGHT (late last night) with 2 maybe 3 posts. That's all in 6 months - one night! I went from not present on that list at all! - straight into the charts at No:22 within an hour of posting. Did a final follow post of daft trigger words and today I'm moved up to No:18.

It's taken you all this year and maybe last year just to "achieve 2 places "better" than me. Doesn't that tell you that my posting on Vod out of nowhere and hurdling over others to be near to your high placing, that my posts DID have actionable trigger words?

This year they've provided more info on their nefarious ways in which they trap the unwary: quote:

" Ramping data is collected via Natural Language processing
- Sentiment analysis
- Keywords
- copy paste posts
- repetitive content
and is fully automated AI code. No humans keep lists! "

There it is third down - they look amongst other things for KEY WORDS. I rest my case you honour :) :) :)

Eh?!? Just a minute! No humans keep lists???? I beg your pardon Pump Dump and Slander! I'm an anorak in keeping lists. Who doesn't keep watchlists on the go?

Last I checked in at the laboratory the scientists there ASSURED me I was human but they were smirking as they said it. I'm a human - AND I KEEP LISTS - So Pump and Dump are wrong from the off!

In your case TL maybe they got you under "copy paste posts" for posting links to articles etc.,

Also besides that, is this:
"Look out for long posts trying to wow you with knowledge - Repeat copy and paste types."
- So, I wonder is that how they got Jack with his knowledgeable posting?

And I feel 100% certain how they got DanielH. There's a bit that states: " Groups will attack in packs if not towing the line, try to get others to "block" or "filter" etc. Block no one, read everything".
I think his frustration with Last Call might have been classed as fitting that criteria. Also maybe things like his appeal to Jack on why he's responding to another poster (my name) when maybe he shouldn't. That's the kind of thing that will get picked up on that clause.

By the way. Last night I did 4 maybe 5 posts on BT. If you type in BT guess who's number 1 on that list without even trying - me - Velo!
No need tpo carry on with my Black Ops mission - got me number one spot - the rest of you are amatuers only Longish and I are the contenders for the big title. On the main troublemakers page I'm was showing up at no 62 last night!

Anyway I'm done with the slanderous P&Dump site. LSE should ashamed of themselves by abusing it's users in that way - not their attempt at ouiting rampers but their nazi-like termination of innocents as collateral

Well that's not a nice close. Worrying. Had a big piece in my mind to post about short term trends but it's late so will skip that (it was a bit depressing anyway).

I'm hanging around posting, haunting this forum so to speak, to see if this develops into a full scale frontal attack on the 200 support level.

Maybe the weekend will provide some time for reflection and the wider market will more properly digest the annual results, the maintaining, at least for this year and next, of the current divi, the welcome increase in net profit earnings, the declared future oath to dominate 5G, and next week sees a change in the trend?

However, there is not a single bullish indication anywhere of a reversal back to a bull trend this weekend, it's all bearish.
So I want to see what next week brings. It might have a pop at 200p - might not, I'm but not expecting it to succeed if does revisit.there, that would be 2 visits back to the v low 200 area, with that vicinity being the floor once again.

Can get away with a third attempt in the future but as the saying goes - carry on revisiting an old support once too often and it will most likely break through eventually.

So everyone must be on stanby to man the barriers on Monday.
Set the red flashing alarm to Defcon One.
Get the special forces ready locked and loaded ready to go in, and stand by your stations.

Now hear this. Now hear this: Here are your orders:

The pivot point for Moinday is just a miniscule fraction under 210p. End the day even at 210.8 or point 9 and it's likely this is the floor. Confirmed if closes at 211p or better. That would be victory!

But close below 210 and I'm concerned a push for further bearishness is under way.

I will fear for an attack on 200 would be confirmed - if it closes on 206p.

- And over the moon if it closes on 211p (or higher).It would mean IMO Game over for the bears!

Fight to the last man srtanding. Don't even think about returning back alive with less than 210 - under no circumstances.

You have your orders!

Over and out.

Jack @
"But such tables point to more sinister possibilities ahead. In future, government programs scouring BBs for key words used in comments & then placing posters on special category databases for future surveillance. Will probably happen one day, if not already"

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Think I've got something informative to add to that so I'll break my self impost silence of the last 6 months or so and post -

I was on that bad-boys list the other year. I recohnised another name I knew, that was one or two places below mine. I tracked him down and challenged him to a duel at dawn as I was way badder than him and in no way was he badder than me.

Anyway his post conveyed shock and appeared upset by it all (No, not by my duel at dawn challenge!) He was a good boy and wanted no truck with us, sat-at-the-back-of-the-class-boys, sprawled out, chewing gum and wearing black leather jackets.

- Anyway, the point is, they don't yet have the technology to read and interpret your posts. It's key words the algo's are searching for.

Back in ther day Pump and Dump listed the trigger words that put you on their lists and ..... subsequently in front of the approproiate Home security/ FBI investigation team (okay too much TV drama watching there).like the word President with Plan and - daren't say the next word as I'll be picked on for real but it begins with an "A" and ends in an 'n' 13 letters in total, gedddit? Or/and/also a four letter word that begins with "b" and ends in an explosive "b" Never put that lot in one sentence.

I digress. Some of the trigger words or rather just a few that I recall that they published on Pump or Dump were -

No brainer.
Ten bagger.
Up like a rocket.
Boom.
massive profit.
big gainer.
To the moon.
mega money.
Make a fortune.
Struck gold
Going to the top
Oil gusher.
Fill your boots
Get in now.
Cheap as chips.

- There were many, many more.

- Anyway you get the picture. If each of you examine your posts you'll find you've innocently said a word or phrase that can be construed in an alternative way. That's all it is - Trigger words.
I believe in their attempt to embarrass rampers they cull approx over 75% of innocent posters. They don't care. You're just collataral damage to them.

I also believe Pump or Dump is run by LSE itself, or at the very least they've sancioned it and allow their algobots to crawl all over these forums. They've been made aware of it by complainees so THEY KNOW - yet do nothing about it. They must think it improves the reputation of LSE.

Right. I am 100% missing from being named on that site. Let's see if any of the trigger words I've mentioned tonight get me on their honours list for Friday or Monday. The more you can mention the higher you get in the bad boys list. Let's see if I overtake the lot of you in one post FILL YER BOOTS! - Hee hee!

Bertram @ "Am I missing? Good returns in a tough environment, divi more than covered and now giving 7% return, just what am I missing? Even pension deficit being addressed. Getting near topping up time again and sod ofcom"

Yes, I think that is the most pertinent question posted today, that most of us must be asking ourselves, and briefly as won't have time for a full look into the figures just yet, but briefly may I offer 2 possible (possible = ie guesses) reasons why?

1) The guidance forecast to the market v the y/e actual results.

- The CEO reports that the revenue is "in line with our guidance" and that is that revenue would be slightly less than last year, so was expected to be so. Well IMO yes and no.

No, in that using the Trailing 12 month forecast whereby the half year results are computed into the projected full guidance year end results, means looking for revenue to come in at circa £23.570m which is still lower than the previous year's revenue.

And yes, insomuch as the actual results released today come in at almost that, but just below it, not just above it, as reported at £23.428m (the difference being neither here nor there, I agree).

Net Profit - was looking for £2,275m after tax. It came in at £2,150m after tax.

So not really significant, both are as the guidance promised in that revenue would be below last year and net profit would be the opposite - better than last year, up! So both delivered on that, but just a smidgen less than the half year hinted at what might be in store by the y/e.

So, I wonder if the market had similar expectations and it weighed on the next point I offer up.

2) Was the market looking for radical changes to BT from the lips of the new CEO? Were they looking to be impressed and inspired? (Personally I think it was a safe and "solid" interpretation of the results and his future vision/ intentions).

There's been some evidence in the media that the board is split. The new CEO (IMO) doesn't appear to have stamped his personal authority on BT. The chairman said publicly no cut to the divi and no selling off and mucking about with Openreach etc.

The new CEO (the media makes clear) wanted a divi cut, not sure what his views are on Openreach.
Whatever, it would appear he's "towing the line" rather than promising a new route to the future. Is that why the market has been a bit lacklustre in response as regards the SP today? They didn't want more of ol' Gav pants and maybe they think that's exactly what they're still getting except dressed in a new suit?

Was the market expecting some sort of impossible, but nonetheless radical vision, from a new CEO but he got hampered by a strong chairman and board who now have the bit between their teeth?

Other than that, the fundamentals are really, truly great looking - as ratio metrics - when compared to competitors. Facts are facts.
That's BT the business - but BT the share price is misbehaving - I think they need to be introduced to

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