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Vas.. You could be near the mark if all does not go well but JC no doubt is working at it.
The rest of you, you were scared s***less, 7 years crickey, not used to being told off by the teacher.
I still put DYOR at the end and so did all of you until you thought he was not looking, a bit of honesty eh.
A bit like Arthur Daley, LOL
DYOR

Hello jake.. Don't think anything like that was ever confirmed.
However it rattle a few cages and a few bleats. 'I am the law'. LOL.
Imperial knew what he was talking about and about the industry.
That is what unsettled them.

Greengrass, don't know about a control freak but Imperial certainly put the willies up you and a few others.
Hope your brazenness now does not come back to bit you. You never know who is watching, LOL.
BST,can't believe you did well at Christmas when you messed up so much with early Cyan.
B.B, a loan is better than no cash at this worldwide dodgy time.
Sit tight and wait upon Indore, South India and Thailand. May be a few months due to virus but will start up.
DYOR

Sorry jake missed that.. I think that Cyan and Connode were in a similar position, things were not moving fast enough and they had laid out a fair amount to cash. It could have been the reverse situation if Connode had held out but they had invested a lot at home installing their 800k connections on lease.
DYOR.

Well Colour it's you that are not getting it. Don't look backwards. We have been about to take off in the past SMETS2, IRAN, early India and later India. These have come along then been delayed for various reasons, in the meantime there has been ongoing costs, these have been reduced. You are trying to lay at JC's doorstep these setbacks, remember Iran when everybody was happy, we were first in then Trump re-imposes ban, nothing to do with CC, The current Virus situation comes at a time when CC has laid its foundation in Thailand and about to progress. Although I think it's OK I feel money could be put under pressure if there is a lengthy period of many months.
Greengrass,I feel you milked the situation talking SP up and down and creaming, so the less said from you probably the better. Didn't you vanish a little while ago when Mr Correctness came on the scene, not much bottle.
All, in case the others forget, DYOR it's your money.

Well here we go again Colour.. Are you saying that IPv6 together with its updates are not what has held CC together.
When Cyan went head to head with Reliant in Mumbai IPv6 was probably not an issue but became so soon after for other Utilities. We all know that initially India was going for lowest price, reverse auctions, and as you say Dumb and Cellular but now CC can do these and EESL has included them. Who knows where that will lead but its better than not being involved.
So EESL has included CC in discussions but at present we have not heard further from CC. So concluded that EESL is not buying from CC. So we know that EESL is buying Cellular but also need notspots for buildings etc. and we know that CC can now accommodate Cellular. Nothing conclusive but certainly not a factual 'not buying'.
To me its all down to how quickly (poor word) installing can get back on track.
That may be months.
Better to be at 9p ave than say 50p, wouldn't you agree BST.
DYOR.

Well Colour, as I see it you are a useless criticiser. JC was saying what was appropriate at the time. In Mumbai Cyan was up against Connode and were working with TATA successfully. They realised they needed IPv6 and to develop would have cost them dearly and timewise, fortuitously Connode called it a day. So paying over the top may have been true but they may have been snapped up by somebody else, keeping us in the running it was probably worth it.
Your famous EESL, you said CC and Omni was not needed. Without being too repetitive, initially you may have been nearly correct with CC relying on private Utilities who saw the long term gains of RF but low and behold EESL have now included CC in their group which you just cannot acknowledge.
Get with it Colour, times are constantly changing in India which you cannot deal with.
My view is CC will survive but may have to go into loans whilst the virus plays out.
DYOR

Well Colour.. we will have to see if Omni is successful. I think it will be, we got to this stage through having to develop IPv6 onwards after taking it over from Connode, without this Cyan would have folded. Consequently other obstacles arose like EESL, who hopefully we have come to an agreement with, fast forward up to Virus our latest obstacle, if this drags on for more than 6 months then a lot of companies will perish without government's help.
BST, I am averaged, at a cost to 9p but achieved in the main by doing a Greengrass in these later trades.
Hello jake, I see where you are leading but this is AIM and is 90% chance with a little bit of research thrown in. I could not have calculated CC by using graphs and past performance.
When you go gold digging you find it or you don't.
DYOR all, hopefully once this is all over CC will be underway.

Well jake, as you are out I understand you are treating this with intrigue as to final position. For starters I feel that CC SP could well drop to 1p. before rising; recent agreements, Indore has progressed on installations, Thailand have progressed on paperwork but as I see it installation is now going to be the problem with lock down and possibly hard up residents at the end of it, even UK installers are at home. I should imagine the challenge is now going to be if CC can break even on the £375k pm costs. In the meantime if Bangladesh starts negotiating contracts (after visiting Indore) and BI appears then we may start towards profit, you notice I have not even mentioned EESL which is still in the wings.
All Salesmen/CEO's make mistakes on taking calculated risks and sometimes big ones.
BST, I averaged but obviously not enough, you did likewise and then panicked but yours was a large loss.
Colour what can I say, you don't listen anyway. When EESL came you said CC RF was doomed, JC wanted to get part of the Indian market, you said Omni was not wanted, CC then incorporated Cellular so could in fact provide the Comms for all occasions but will probably still only get 20% of the market. Good enough.
Everybody this is a discussion of DO's and DONT's so you have to DYOR.

Colour/Bst.. Unbelievable, resort to insults if you cannot deal with situation. BST How much money have you actually lost, if I remember rightly you were in it deep years ago, so your not unbiased. Colour I would not be surprised if you had similar losses. You can now get on with dealing with my 12:05.
I would not be surprised if CC SP falls over next few weeks but I am sure it will recover later in the year.
DYOR

Well ITT, SP held the 2m sell.
DYOR

Yes please Colour but only if you truly give reasons for the predictions and the obstacles that then arose, such as follow on to original pipeline where EESL then changed requirement . Also highlight Mysore success followed by update to Omni then its application in Indore but only if it suits you, LOL.
All DYOR.

Colour, thought you didn't worry.
Seawolf, Yellow Submarine Syndrome.
At the moment SP's of many companies are flying all over the place so CC will probably dip in due course.
It what they can offer when this crisis finishes that counts.
Cannot be bothered to keep looking back and quoting old figures, if you are worried Colour then bye bye not buy buy.
Ignore CC SP if it dips again, its only if it goes insolvent you need to worry and then its too late.
DYOR everybody, Colour will keep you up to date regarding past performances, LOL. But will not give the reasons.
We may some force majeure at present but CC has encountered this in Indian politics over the years.

B&B not normally displayed like that, one would be a minus.
If straight forward sell then somebody panicking.
DYOR

Not you again Bamby, didn't know you had 2m.
LOL. DYOR. doing a Colour.

Actually Woolie the 250000 sold on the fundamentals has not shown up yet so still to come.
Unless an error.

As I see it Vas we knew it was not going to be a dynamic report and being surrounded by the doom and gloom of the Virus and falling stock markets CC just about held. It could have nosedived all the way down to 1p so all in all not too bad.
The main Markets were thought to be V shaped and going back up but they are now thinking may be a second dip.
Probably depends on length of crisis.
DYOR not just the stock but Market generally.

That was an LOL Bamby.. I was watching Arden a few months back.
I think one excitement is enough for me.

Was it you Bamby, surely not.

Looks like 250000 sold but not on list. Check fundamentals icon.
It's not you is it Colour.
DYOR