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Friendsps, you have a short memory, if you recall, you called me a "very dangerous woman" so why would I converse with you further, and I don't accept bribes. In the bin you go.

Just a reminder of this whilst posting;

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/w-011-1888?contextData=(sc.Default)&transitionType=Default&firstPage=true&bhcp=1#co_anchor_a881453

Hi BBaggins

I can't even contemplate how the war will end. I agree, Putin will not stop, and my fear is what happens if he takes the war in to a Nato territory, it's bad enough he's decimated Ukraine and killed many innocent people. Anything touched that is Russian and involves money is tantamount to 'blood money' now imo. It's so sad.

I don't see anything happening here until the war ends and even then I'm doubtful as I'm of the view the Russian State will retain its metals.

Perhaps you might want to read the cloutag forum and see how that panned out. Mac, who was Aberdeenman then, will provide you with great insight there as to what is likely to happen here, the shares will become worthless no doubt as happened there! My views of course.

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As I said last night, 1p by the end of August. There was never anything to substantiate a rise from the ashes imvho, virtually no revenue, and very little of value regarding 'assets'. Even the A list cookie crew members have now given up and thrown in the towel, and left it to the B team! You lot should be ashamed of yourselves, and of the abuse you have slung around in particular.

Seasick - can you not read?

Minerals underground remain the property of the Russian State until they are excavated.

Once excavated, they become the property of whoever holds the mining licence.

The mining licences are, from recollection, held by Russian subsidiaries.

In British law, and this is a British company, subsidiaries are a separate legal entity.

The problem for investors is the minerals are in russian soil, so still in the ownership of the State, and the State is at war with virtually the rest of the world. The russians can dig them out obviously, but I doubt anyone else is going to want to go to Russia right now and dig them out, if at all. I doubt the minerals will leave Russia, they will probably remain within the State imo.

Reminder;

"Mineral resources that are located underground belong to the state. Unlike some other jurisdictions, landowners do not have any property rights to underlying mineral resources by virtue of their land ownership. The state grants the right to use mineral resources by issuing subsoil licences (for exploration and/or production). Once extracted, the mineral resources become the property of the respective subsoil licence holder."

Hence the minerals are nationalised, they belong to the Russian State, whilst they remain underground.

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Have been removed from his posting history, now that is vicious. He came on to say he had seen the same link as I had, some time ago, as I had, and he had considered the content and that's when he decided to exit this share. He also concurred with me about the concentrate.

This forum is so one sided, if you're part of the abusive crew, it doesn't matter what you say, your posts seem to remain, anyone else, you're removed. Says it all really. This forum has been played for months and months by those posters that don't have a shred of credibility. Unfortunately, over those many months, they have taken many in with their antics, many who are now stuck with mammoth losses and very little means of escape without accepting those losses. Look at the ftse today, blue stocks abound, AIM is always a nightmare when you have the trolls who are being paid. End of.

Before I go to look at other shares that i do occasionally comment on by the way, here's that link again.

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/w-011-1888?contextData=(sc.Default)&transitionType=Default&firstPage=true&bhcp=1#co_anchor_a881453

Well that's a relief if you've all thrown in the towel at last, the problem is that you lot are multi monikered so you will be back posting under different guises, and so it goes on! I only have the one handle here, unlike you lot. Don't answer, you said you won't!

Can you please post again what you posted early this morning, which backed up what I was saying late last night? In any event, people can look at Jiffy's posting history to see as it should be there.

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I would agree Fr. but the crew won't want any negative posting, they just want their positive spin, as that's what they get paid for no doubt!

No Brookers it isn't, not until they are excavated, and then when excavated, they are the ownership of whoever holds the mining licence!

Stej, it's in black and white, whilst the minerals remain under the ground, the State own them. How many times?

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as i was told by someone in the know, when i asked, the answer was a resounding 'get out'. so glad i did, just a token few left in, in another account, that i never use and can't be ****d to do a new password etc for.

Wow, and now you're having all the painful truth posts removed, so you've collectively removed mine with the links that clearly show that the minerals are nationalised, you've removed JifyBag's also stating the same thing early this morning, you've removed mine saying that the concentrate belongs to whoever holds the mining licence and extracted it, what a lying conniving lot you are. I hope everyone makes a complaint about all these handles to londonsoutheast, as they've been lying to you for months. The minerals are owned by the Russian State until they are excavated and then they are owned by whoever holds the mining licence. Clear as daylight. The State still owns the minerals that are underground, and it's Russia, Russia who is at war with the rest of the world effectively. The minutes of the deputy russian prime ministers in December were correct. They will keep the metals for their own domestic markets it seems.

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"Mineral resources that are located underground belong to the state. Unlike some other jurisdictions, landowners do not have any property rights to underlying mineral resources by virtue of their land ownership. The state grants the right to use mineral resources by issuing subsoil licences (for exploration and/or production). Once extracted, the mineral resources become the property of the respective subsoil licence holder."

this article relates to russian mining by ukpracticallaw which you can find on the internet. Nite.

If you think anyone is seriously going to buy mines where they don't own anything, think again. Mining companies know it will take years to extract any decent size of minerals, and the downside is, they won't own them, not until they are well out of the ground, and then the licences are held by subsidiaries, so effectively they then own them, unless the licences are transferred, which is a messy business. Who is going to risk trying to mine in Russia as things stand, and risk losing their whole investment should the State reclaim the land, and/or revoke the licences? How can Eurasia sell any metals that it doesn't actually own, the State own them as they presently lie? It's absurd, especially in the current climate as well.

Eurasia don't own a bean! The State own the minerals and the subsidiaries who are separate legal entities own the mining licences. Think on it.

"Mineral resources that are located underground belong to the state. Unlike some other jurisdictions, landowners do not have any property rights to underlying mineral resources by virtue of their land ownership. The state grants the right to use mineral resources by issuing subsoil licences (for exploration and/or production). Once extracted, the mineral resources become the property of the respective subsoil licence holder."

this article relates to russian mining by ukpracticallaw.

Note: anything below the ground belongs to the State regardless. Landowners do not have any property right.

Also note: the licences belong to the licence holder. Eurasia does not hold any licences in its own name, ask yourself why? they are all held in russian subsidiary/JV names. Think about it. Make yourself a brew while you're at it.

Metom, I take it that it is this? news very soon then.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-05/turkish-air-says-it-s-about-two-months-away-from-mega-jet-order