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Seize, this may be a light bulb moment but Osram make light sources.
Light (NIR) is essential for DMS, OMS, but there doesn't need to be exclusivity in who they sell to.

They need to sell themselves, so they are attaching their name to the systems where they are essential, even of they are not unique suppliers

Lewbo, I think that was more of a recruitment / STEM session, so they were showing the kind of things you would be involved in rather than actively promoting SEE, that was just an ideal and portable demo

Certainly hyms,

Adding a feature to estimate size, weight, presence and position of a passenger allows far better air bag deployment.

Takata went bust because of faulty airbags. They are a safety feature, but they can harm you if they fire at the wrong time or if you are too close.

If you think of an airbag, it is a shaped balloon that is inflated rapidly by explosives to just in front of you and then it does a controlled deflation as you hit it so it becomes a soft cushion slowing your forward progress so you don't hit anything and so slow your deceleration even though the vehicle may have come to an abrupt halt.

Now if you are too close, you will hit a solid bag as it is still inflating
If your limbs are in front of your body, they will be pushed back and hit your face/body.
If you are tall and heavy, you need more air in the bag before inflation starts
If you are small and light, you need a softer "pillow"
baby seat in the front passenger seat - air bag should be disabled

So now airbags can have more than one explosive "setting" so that the bag has a variety of inflation levels and with an OMS, it can detect if you are too close and judge how much power is required to safely protect you, or even disable it entirely if there is no passenger in the seat - reducing ear damage and also the cost of repair

Phil, as you say, it doesn't matter.

Qualcomm bought the driving and "policy" stack - "how to drive" and "how" to drive (what are the rules, what style of driving - aggressive, or smooth) and also supporting the driver with overrides.

Veoneer keep active safety - see this for details of what that means (Note I don't think DMS is part of this particular example)
https://www.veoneer.com/en/press-releases?page=/press/perma/2068791
Veoneer Awarded Active Safety System by Major Asian OEM
November 15, 2022 08:30
Stockholm, Sweden, November 15, 2022: The automotive technology company Veoneer has signed an agreement with a major Asian OEM to equip an electric vehicle joint-venture in China with an active safety system comprising of a monovision camera, a package of forward-looking and corner radars, and an ADAS ECU.

In 2024, Veoneer will begin delivering and integrating the Active Safety system, designed for collaborative driving on level 2+. The system's high level of safety functionality is maintained in bad weather and darkness, and it includes features that can trigger alarms, take control of the vehicle to avoid a crash or lessen an accident's severity as well as automatically brake the car.

The award includes Veoneer's 4th generation monovision system. The hardware is integrated with software which is using deep learning technologies that identify objects such as cars, road markings and road signs.

Veoneer's corner and forward-looking radars provide reliable and accurate situational awareness of objects surrounding the vehicle and are critical for autonomous driving systems. Radar systems warn for potential collisions, are used for avoiding blind spot crashes, and can control stop-and-go functions in queues, among other functionalities.

The award also includes Veoneer's ADAS ECU, the multi-lingual brain that monitors the surroundings and fuses data from cameras, radars and sensors, interprets the situation and makes informed decisions to support the driver and triggers features such as emergency braking or automatic lane changes.

That roadmap may have spelt out Veoneer's plans to use "SoC Camera" or "Smart Camera" but I think we all know it better as "Magna Mirror". Back in 2021 they put it on their road map and the next step was DMS controlling RCS where they make much of their money.

When Paul said the future Tier 1 winners are not what we expect - he was telling us Veoneer won't win DMS because it will be a Magna win even if the purchase fell through, it was on the roadmap published in mid 2021

This link may be more insightful https://www.linkedin.com/posts/veoneer_press-releases-activity-7009440592954830848-K_vY?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios given several SEE names have liked it.

I thought at the time it could be related to OMS providing the positions and estimated weight of the occupants. So I have done some digging.

https://showroom.veoneer.com/#/show/productshowcase/product_02/description
This is from mid 2021. You will see in the text
OEM1 = Ford
OEM2 possibly Fisker?

2023 Ford using "DMS3" - so that is a new vehicle or refresh we can expect to see soon .

The code names on the parts CX727 and P702 are Ford's internal project codes for Mach-E and F-150
The picture is clearly a Mach-E steering wheel.
The video is a pre-production version of a Lincoln (posh Ford brand) - the Mach-E sensor is the wrong shade of plastic
Next slide is the product history for DMS:
Gen 2 SOP is 2020 (Mach-E and F-150)
Gen 3 SOP is mid 2023 (we know this is OEM1 = Ford)
2025 has two entries
- Smart Camera (no, not Smart Eye, don't worry, have patience)
- Body Tracking Pre-Airbag deployment features)

Final slide - DMS Roadmap
- DMS 2 2020
- DMS 3 2023
- SOC Camera 2024 (This is "smart camera", System On Chip. I think this is possibly OmniVision's OAX4600 chip in the same package as the Camera?)
- Smart RCS - so this is the DMS/OMS tracking the bodies to control how the Airbags are deployed

Now the Veoneer win is for 2026, so that fits with the timeline (as it was in Mid 2021)
https://www.veoneer.com/en/press-releases?page=/press/perma/2079465

Ignore the heading. STD got shot down for posting this which is for a Reaction Control System (RCS) win by Veoneer.

See my next post for reasons (and a fresh Subject)

Paul told us at the town hall that certain companies attitude to pricing was to demand more and more discount:
1 box of Pencils for $x dollars, and if they ordered 2 boxes they wanted them half price.

Seeing Machines are working with fewer Tier1s and they are working far more deeply with those companies to build a compelling business proposition.

Now, if we have walked away from a Tier 1 that doesn't mean they can't win. DMS is not the only thing that they are selling, normally the OEM has specified a stack of requirements including ADAS and a total budget for the features. So it is possible that a cheaper Bosch of Pencils has been specified for the T1 to get the business.

"Up to 53 models" strange wording. Either the OEM isn't sure that 53 models will make it to the market, or they have sold a similar deal to another T1 and they will both start with some confirmed models and play it out to see who gets the lions hare based on how the whole packages actually work and how they are received by the market.

Let's see how this goes...

JC you are always looking for clusters of similar patents. This batch certainly shows how working with Seeing Machines has provided a new tool for the Human Factors team at Rockwell which has resulted in a rich seam for them to mine. Even if only a fraction get to a patent it shows where their direction of travel is and there is enough width and depth in these patents to keep others out of this area.

As mentioned in the Pat aircraft videos, there are many ways to use eye tracking and seeing machines in the ****pit.
This multi feature approach using the same equipment costs little extra to deploy and adds more value to the OEMs and Airlines.

I can see pilot facing cameras being a desirable and soon a standard feature for some leading operators before becoming mandatory in certain markets.
Well done JC, SEE and Rockwell Collins

If you ever wondered where the keys are on a commercial jet. There aren't any.

That is why the pilot stays in the aircraft until the passengers disembark.

This patent application is for a multitude of locking and unlocking methods to prevent hijacks in the air and on the ground.

In films a fingerprint or eye scan opens a door. But this system can detect the wrong person in the pilot seat at any time.

In the event of incapacity you can talk to the ground to allow full authority for the passenger who just happens to be able to fly (To lose one pilot may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness)

But more likely is that the aircraft will allow the unidentified person only limited control and is most likely to engage autoland at the nearest airstrip.

This means the golden years of aircraft disaster movies are long gone.

Stellantis, most of those brands are small and regional, so the same win gets split into UK (Vauxhaul), Opel (Germany and neighbours) Peugeot (France, Spain and UK), Fiat (Italy,...) etc rather than a single badge win like Ford which has far larger volume for a single DW and no extra configuration for the varieties of cabin and furniture across the brands

Good find JC.

That patent application gets the TLS thumbs up!

Nothing too fancy, just does what it says it will do - monitor the pilot's scan pattern and identify if they are missing something, or have focussed too long in one area, all relative to the phase of the flight.

Hope it becomes part of standard fit-out before too long

And the YouTube link to the same content
https://youtu.be/hs3r_ZurVFo

Qualcomm is laying the trail for CES and their own presentations, not sparing the cash either!

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/qualcomm_ai-activity-7006364434986082305-1D1o?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android
Automotive is half way through. Camera in mirror and DMS

Safestocks didn't twist the knife. He just threw Smart Eye in the blender.

CFP,
JC and TLS are just a side show to fill in the gaps while Terrym snoozes and I am sure that even then he still keeps one eye on See

Thank you CFP

That new enterprise customer is Air Liquide. Over 66k employees in 75 countries https://www.airliquide.com/group/air-liquide-brief

Are you quoting someone?

This one brings home the money!

"Optical path"
The first stage of the optical path is the light source. This patent application is mostly about what you do with it

In lab conditions it takes time to configure your components, to find the sweet spot for the power level for illumination so that they pupil is not too bright or too dark. This will then be tweaked in automotive validation tests to get the best response in most conditions across the test population.

This gives a DMS that mostly works in most conditions for most of the people. It isn't 100%

What does this mean in practice?
To obtain an image that they can see when the sun is on your face, they need to have higher power, but they won't cover the very brightest sun low in your face as that would be too bright for night time. But that still means that most images are overly bright. So the accuracy in measuring the eye position will be lower all of the time and the system may not even get a successful eye position in the darkest or brightest environments.

This patent allows See to dynamically adjust lighting.
It also allows multiple images to be tested within a cycle so the best can be selected. That puts Seeing Machines at the very highest "availability" for detecting eye positions and better images improves the quality of the eye detection and so more accuracy.

There is a reason why Seeing Machines win contracts, and get to production!