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I missed a bit. This is a car not F35 plane with fancy goggles. So need to take 360 model of the surroundings then hide everything blocked by the car - or just imagine what you can see from the position in the car of the eyes and the direction that they are looking

JC, you put great weight on my shoulders.

On let's start with a simple one. Where is the eye? A single camera gives 2d image so the eye is fixed in 2d space and is on a line from camera through the pupil. To fix that in 3d could use 2nd camera. But can calculate size of eye is fairly standard which gives a distance along the line. Can check that with known geometry of the vehicle. Can further measure the size of the eye as the person moves around in the car. Fixed geometry of the size of person does not change so have a second fixed place the seat and known skeletal models. Apply the same to the hand, arm, finger and you can estimate distance to camera. Also compare position to what the hand/arm are blocking may give extra info.

Both 3d positions have errors in length from camera, but accurate in the 2d frame but should be able to identify a flattened cone for a that points towards a target area.

Human perception - model what we ignore in a scene and what we pay attention to. Horizontal green or grey areas are only important at their edges. Individual leaves or twigs can be ignored.

Combine cones of interest with estimates of what humans look at and you might get lucky

Yes, and it looks like they are still advertising them. I remember that there were 4 or 5 openings previously. Must be tricky to fill out they move slowly.

https://veoneerjapan.teamtailor.com/

Job openings at DMS-Driver Monitoring System
Systems Architect, Interior Sensing
Yokohama - JYT
Product Engineer, Interior Sensing
Yokohama - JYT
Mechanical Engineer, Interior Sensing Products
Yokohama - JYT
Function Owner, Interior Sensing
Yokohama - JYT

https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2019/07/26/tesla_driver_autopilot_motorway_idiocy

Business as usual:

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demonstrating how the use of our Guardian driver safety system tech is a critical factor in preventing driver fatigue incidents and keeping the roads safe. #seeingmachines #roadsafety #SEEGuardian #DMS

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Now would be a great time to consolidate these gains with a "no confirmed contract" RNS

Unfortunately, they aren't citing our patents yet, but Ford, Toyota and BREED DAVID S [US] AMERICAN VEHICULAR SCIENCES LLC [US]. I wonder how close those patents are to our tech?

I think that Thales is the customer and Toll are the haulier. They are so safety conscious because they are hauling explosives

Did someone already post this? Some quotes look familiar.

https://www.autonews.com/shift/why-level-3-automated-technology-has-failed-take-hold

Toyota Motor Corp. and Denso Corp. announced plans Wednesday to form a joint venture to develop the next-generation semiconductors for future connected and self-driving vehicles.

Denso, one of the world’s largest auto suppliers, will own 51% of the new business, with Toyota to own the remaining portion. Assuming the project receives anti-trust and other regulatory approvals, the companies plan to launch the venture in April 2020 with 500 employees and about 50 million yen ($458,968) in initial capital. Toyota owns about 24% of Denso.

This is the latest step in Toyota's strategy to shift more advanced electronics development to Denso, which is a key supplier of advanced components for Toyota and Lexus brand cars and trucks. This particular venture will concentrate on such products as power modules for electric vehicles and monitoring sensors for automated vehicles. The news comes on the heels of Toyota's plan to work with Apollo, the consortium led by China's Baidu created to develop artificial intelligence for self-driving vehicles.

Sensors are becoming as important to new vehicles as powertrains, and the number of sensors in a vehicle continues to increase. Not only do they enable autonomous vehicles to safely navigate in urban traffic, but they are essential to improving communication between vehicles and communication of vehicles with traffic lights and other traffic-control infrastructure. The venture is taking shape as companies including Intel and its Mobileye division and Nvidia have positioned themselves to be the leading providers of advanced compute systems for autonomous vehicles.

Last year Toyota and Denso companies agreed to combine the development and production of electronic components within Denso’s research center to accelerate innovation and bring systems to market sooner.

Toyota and Denso are also collaborating with Aisin Seiki Co., another crucial Toyota supplier, to establish an autonomous driving research center in Tokyo.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/greggardner/2019/07/10/toyota-denso-form-venture-to-create-advanced-chips-for-self-driving-and-connected-cars/?TrucksFoT=#53cc2be03480

https://www.irc-bus.gov.hk/eng/pdf/transcript20180912.pdf

Luckily we only need to look at the internal pages 1-14

Can't get better than a court transcript!
Just check the internal page numbers as the layout is a bit strange.

They get a little confused, but Queen's University Belfast is not connected to drowsiness.

The competitor product is DENSO.
The main concern seems to be that drivers have to move their heads a lot!

https://www.irc-bus.gov.hk/eng/pdf/transcript20180912.pdf

Esco,
It shows that Proactive aren't all that Proactive - is that a picture of a Tesla to illustrate the story?

https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/224326/seeing-machines--fovio-system-to-be-installed-in-more-models-by-existing-customer-224326.html

This is just pedal and steering wheel monitoring, not a DMS

https://www.milescontinental.co.nz/news/features/driver-fatigue-detection/

Hi JC,
Colin Thomsen's projects at Microsoft aren't that relevant to SEE or automotive. But it will have been a large team working on complicated and relatively niche products so that will carry some weight. As for the Toyota /MS tie in, nothing to write home about, they may even have changed platform again since then as the world has moved away from MS

OK so lets assume that Conti started a brand new and contains of around dozen engineers in the summer of 2014 to look at DMS and interior sensing. 1 left in 2016 (Number 8)

Also in Singapore but in a different team - left in 2016
and another left in 2012 and worked in many unrelated companies

There are also a batch of Conti engineers working in Melbourne

Conti also do instrument clusters, Ododmeters etc, these are computerised and have lots of staff working on them too, could be User Interface programmers, or team leaders
1 left in 2016 and went to Thales first before See
Danny left in 2016 and came to See
another left in 2016 and went to BAe then came to SEE

1 in the USA is now our VP

So different reasons for leaving? not all the same teams, but may have known each other. Maybe 2016 became important as we started advertising jobs and paying well. and friendship networks brought across more colleagues , or perhaps things in Conti were not looking so good?
Possibly it is all cloak and dagger and was arranged by Conti, maybe they shut down a joint Singapore/Melbourne team and suggested that it would be helpful for staff to transfer to a partner company - it appears that one person currently works for both companies at the same time (but that could be an innocent mistake)

Thanks JC for sticking the pictures on the big board so that we can join up with string and pins

Good morning Gents,

There is some great research going on in the background here. It is good to know that x, y & z have a history with Conti, it means that if we were to work with them again it would work well and they would know many of the people and procedures.

Of course the reason why so many of the SEE employees have similar backgrounds is because they have what we need. There are only soo many employees with those skills and that all are mostly doing that sort of job in the larger firms, or are researching in Universities, but don't have all of the practical automotive experience.

As for confidentiality, this is all publicly sourced data that they have published themselves. We are just monetizing it just like fb, Google or LinkedIn do. You can join the dots to fill in many blanks with likes and posts.

I started to do this on linked in for some Eyeris employees, but it is a desert, hardly any likes but there were some connections with China, and a 1 like of a future unveiling of a BMW 3 series. It could be cultural,or an instruction to stay quiet. But they dldont even like their own posts!

I like this quote from the Teslarati article :

We’re building a driver-monitoring system so it’s not just one sensor like a torque input sensor – like if a driver actually wants to disengage the longitudinal and lateral controller,” Jeromin explained. “There going to be a driver-monitoring camera, and there’s also going to be hands-on wheel sensors.”

In other words, Rivian’s full self-driving system will ignore driver input unless it is determined to be intentional. A Level 3 self-driving system can handle most aspects of driving, so if a driver wants their vehicle to behave differently than its programming is carrying out, the car will use the camera and sensors in the cabin to determine whether to proceed. If, say, the wheel is bumped from the driver shifting around in their seat for some reason, the safety procedures will know it was an accident.

“It’s really trying to determine the driver’s intention because if…you inadvertently give the steering input to the steering controller…the driver monitoring camera will see that you’re not looking at the road, and you also don’t have both hands on the wheel,” Jeromin clarified. “So, we’ll have to ignore that input from the human to understand that they’re not intending to change lanes. They’re actually just doing something else while the vehicle is in control.”

Ah 2001,back in the days of cell phones and CDs. What an oddessy we have been on. Alex's ideas still sound so new. Volvo really were funding blue sky research.

Sorry JC, today I am a rubbish wingman. I tried to read these earlier but even smiling at beardy man couldn't keep my mind focused