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Thoth,
from the bbc link - as advised by governments... 'washing with soap' - same as advice as WHO/CDC/NHS...
The bbc article also mentions Dettol & Lysol, not Byotrol...

"Hand washing with soap is one of the key health messages promoted by governments in the face of the outbreak, and Dettol and Lysol are two of the world's leading disinfectants."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51658361

Your post the other day:
"And with the us military involvement"

What US Military involvement? Where do they state that they have a contract with the US Military?
I can't find any reference, in the Annual Report, that they have a contract with the US Military.
Can you please post the link or were you making it up?

https://byotrolplc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Byotrol-Annual-Report-FY-2018-19.pdf

BYOT's consumer sales to 'rest of the world', excluding US & UK is 0 (ZERO).

From Annual Report:
REVENUE Professional Consumer Pet Total

United Kingdom 2,254 164 283 2,701
North America 5 2,020 - 2,025
Rest of World 451 - 483 934
https://byotrolplc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Byotrol-Annual-Report-FY-2018-19.pdf

Further they lost the contract with a leading European Supplier, Robert McBride plc.
Loss of potential consumer sales during the outbreak, especially in Europe...

Major European supplier, Robert McBride - Tesco - "Excellent arrangement .. for many years:

"Post year end we came to the end of our licence relationship with Robert McBride plc and therefore to supplying surface sprays to Tesco. This was an excellent arrangement for us for many years, but it has now run its course and we expect to generate higher margin opportunities with better brand equity from other consumer initiatives. "

https://byotrolplc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Byotrol-Annual-Report-FY-2018-19.pdf

Soapbox: The challenges of CTV ad targeting

The guesswork to hone in on the right viewers in the home at scale, along with dynamically changing IP addresses, have marketers frustrated by the state of CTV.

https://martechtoday.com/soapbox-the-challenges-of-ctv-ad-targeting-238689

Thoth,

"And with the us military involvement"

What US Military involvement? Where do they state that they have a contract with the US Military?

Frac,
So not 'recommended' by WHO then only the company and it's shareholders recommend Byot. Companies 'recommends' their own products, don't they?

The official recommendation from WHO still being use Soap and water or Alcohol based sanitiser...

Thoth,

"And with the us military involvement"

What US Military involvement? Where do they state that they have a contract with the US Military?

Frac

"Byotrol is recommended against covid19."

Can you please post a link where it is recommended? I can't see it on WHO/CDC websites?

WHO/CDC recommend Alcohol based sanitiser, which Byot is not.

Tip
"Surely anti-bacterial is not the same thing as anti-viral?"

EXACTLY. Thank you, that is the point.

Where do the official Public Organisations, WHO/CDC or NHS state people should use anti-viral? It doesn't. WHO/CDC recommend an ALCOHOL Based sanitiser, NHS just Sanitiser.

Therefore, the vast majority of people would search and buy 'hand sanitiser', which results in a 'Hospital Grade' sanitiser, as well as many anti-bacterial bottles.

Why would the vast majority of people specifically search for anti-viral?

The official advice from Public Organisations is:

"Wash your hands frequently with soap and water or use an alcohol-based hand rub if your hands are not visibly dirty."
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

CDC:

"If soap and water are not readily available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. Always wash hands with soap and water if hands are visibly dirty."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-treatment.html

SuperDrug search returned 100ml bottles for £1.25 and with BOGOF 200ml for £1.25

Compare that to Byot based Boots 200ml hand sanitiser for £5.19, Buy one get 1 1/2 price!!

https://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Hand-Care/Hand-Gel/Superdrug-Sensitive-Antibacterial-Hand-Sanitiser-Gel-100ml/p/729268

https://www.boots.com/boots-anti-viral-hand-foam%E2%80%93200-ml-10231389

Kew
"If your local Boots store is out of Boots Byotrol Anti Viral Hand Foam"

Out of stock online for over 3 weeks now.

Check the UK Capital Cities:
London - NO stores with stock
Cardiff - 1 store 12m away in Blackwood
Edinburgh - NO stores with stock
Belfast - 1 store over 7m away in Lisburn

https://www.boots.com/boots-anti-viral-hand-foam%E2%80%93200-ml-10231389

Weeks without stock and that's without a major outbreak in UK... loss of potential customers.
Do they have supply chain problems? Will they be able to supply soon?

However, searching Superdrug for 'hand sanitiser' returns 50ml bottles for £1.25 and BOGOF (Buy 1 Get 1 Free)!!
Check the 4 UK Capital Cities and stores have it in stock.

https://www.superdrug.com/checkout/guest/home

Ian,
" But hey WTFDIK i cook sausages for a living."

Standard WHO advice:
"Standard recommendations to prevent infection spread include regular hand washing, covering mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing, thoroughly cooking meat and eggs. Avoid close contact with anyone showing symptoms of respiratory illness such as coughing and sneezing."

I hope the sausages are well cooked and you don't get too close to any customers/staff with the virus... You wouldn't want to become a super-spreader, having to be isolated for a fortnight. Who would cook the sausages then?

On a serious note...
The WHO have said it was too early to call the outbreak a pandemic, so containment IS most important.
"The WHO said it was too early to call the outbreak a pandemic but countries should be "in a phase of preparedness".

Thoth
"Dont blame us if you chose an inferior product"

QED. I've provided evidence that the vast majority of people wouldn't come across Byot, whether following official advice, shopping online via Amazon or from high street shops.

If people follow advice from WHO/CDC, public organisations then they would look to buy alcohol based sanitiser.
If people search online, as posted, Amazon, they would search for 'Hand sanitiser Gel' and result would show Defendol HOSPITAL GRADE sanitiser.
If people go shopping, eg Superdrug then the same Defendol Hospital Grade Sanitiser shows.

Why would they seek advice from Byot, a private company and not Public Organisations like WHO/CDC/NHS??.

WHO/CDC/NHS advice people should use soap and water.
That's independent advice from an international organisation and doesn't require approval from any government.

WHO advice:
WHO:
"Wash your hands frequently with soap and water or use an alcohol-based hand rub if your hands are not visibly dirty."
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

NHS advice:
"wash your hands with soap and water often – use hand sanitiser gel if soap and water are not available"

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

Boots staff would provide advice based on NHS advice - Boots staff would show customers where hand sanitisers are.

BOOTS website - advice similar to NHS - use 'sanitiser gel':

"Wash your hands with soap and water often or use sanitiser gel when you’re out and about"

"Click here for the latest government information on coronavirus."

https://www.boots.com/health/cold-and-flu/coronavirus

and if you shop online through Amazon or high street shops then a Hospital Grade sanitiser which is EU Standard and kinder to the skin, shows..

Results show list of several products...
One of the ones listed at the top is ' Defendol Hospital Grade antibacterial Gel' for £16.75 delivered...
Great kills 99.99% of germs
Has BS EN 1040 and EN 1500 approved marks.
And it's kind to the skin.

Is it BYOT's????

Thoth
"she is going shopping tomorrow"

Ok, go shopping... Head into Superdrug and the same Defendol Hospital Grade hand sanitiser is available in store for £3.49!!

Is it Byot's???

https://www.superdrug.com/Skin/Hand-Care/Hand-Gel/Defendol-Hospital-Grade-Anti-Bacterial-Hand-Gel/p/793680

Frac,
"Click Amazon"

Yes, try Amazon, search for 'Hand sanitiser Gel' as recommended by NHS/Boots...

Results show list of several products...
One of the ones listed at the top is ' Defendol Hospital Grade antibacterial Gel' for £16.75 delivered...
Great kills 99.99% of germs
Has BS EN 1040 and EN 1500 approved marks.
And it's kind to the skin that Rip was concerned about.

Great. Is it Bytrol's???

Thoth2,
"WHO do not authorise medicines or treatments. The Eu and the usa can. "

Absolutely nothing to do with approval. It's SEEKING ADVICE.

WHO/CDC/NHS advice people should use soap and water.
That's independent advice from an international organisation and doesn't require approval from any government.

WHO advice:
WHO:
"Wash your hands frequently with soap and water or use an alcohol-based hand rub if your hands are not visibly dirty."
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

NHS advice:
"wash your hands with soap and water often – use hand sanitiser gel if soap and water are not available"

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

Boots staff would provide advice based on NHS advice - Boots staff would show customers where hand sanitisers are.

BOOTS website - advice similar to NHS - use 'sanitiser gel':

"Wash your hands with soap and water often or use sanitiser gel when you’re out and about"

"Click here for the latest government information on coronavirus."

https://www.boots.com/health/cold-and-flu/coronavirus

Frac,
"So the NHS is not public then"

That's the point.
I do love it when posters twist what I've actually written..

Who would the vast majority of people SEEK ADVICE from?? WHO, CDC, NHS but not from a private company.
I doubt people concerned about Covid-19 know or care who supply some NHS hospitals... and they currently have contracts with around 20+ hospitals out of 1500.

Someone looking for a hand sanitiser will read the advice on the WHO, CDC website and buy an alcohol based sanitiser. Or look on the NHS website which simply state 'use hand sanitiser gel', so again any hand sanitiser.

"use hand sanitiser gel if soap and water are not available"
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

If you intend to buy online then the vast majority will search for 'hand sanitiser', which shows lots of different products..

WHO/CDC are public organisations operating in the Public Sector. BYOT is operating in the Private sector.

The fact remains, WHO/CDC clearly stated that people should use an alcoholic based sanitiser.

Common sense dictates that the VAST MAJORITY of people, inc governments, would follow WHO/CDC advice, a public organisation and not advice from a private company.

WHO:
"Wash your hands frequently with soap and water or use an alcohol-based hand rub if your hands are not visibly dirty."
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Tricky,
From your link.
"In 2017, Tremor Video sold its demand-side business to Taptica"

Yes, for $50m and the reason why Tremor Video sold the demand-side to Taptica:

Tremor Video reasons for selling their DSP.. perceived conflict of interest when servicing both sides. which is exactly what Trmr are doing now...

"Clients were also uneasy with Tremor servicing both the buy- and sell-sides."
"There's always been a little bit of friction because we were selling agencies and advertisers different products while we were representing publishers," Zagorski said. "And the people who plug into that sell-side platform would always be somewhat hesitant to commit to it in a huge way because we had that perceived conflict."

https://adexchanger.com/digital-tv/tremor-video-sells-demand-side-business-taptica-50m/

WHO/CDC are public organisations operating in the Public Sector.
BYOT is operating in the Private sector.

The fact remains, WHO/CDC clearly stated that people should use an alcoholic based sanitiser.

Common sense dictates that the VAST MAJORITY of people, inc governments, would follow WHO/CDC advice, a public organisation and not advice from a private company.

Rip
"It's not a private company".
Is it owned by the government then? No, it's a private company.

The fact remains, WHO/CDC clearly stated that people should use an alcoholic based sanitiser.

Common sense dictates that the VAST MAJORITY of people, inc governments, would follow WHO/CDC advice.

It's up to individuals as to whether they choose to heed or ignore WHO/CDC/Dettol advice but I believe and would expect the vast majority and governments to follow and promote it.

WHO:
"Wash your hands frequently with soap and water or use an alcohol-based hand rub if your hands are not visibly dirty."
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

CDC:
"If soap and water are not readily available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. Always wash hands with soap and water if hands are visibly dirty."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-treatment.html

Rip,

I never mentioned anything about Byot's effectiveness nor the EU standard, you did.
So you agree that the EU Standard means nothing outside of EU - thank you.

Do you also agree that WHO/CDC don't mention the EU standard but they recommend that users use an alcoholic based sanitiser and Byot is not alcohol based?

Given Byot's product has been sold out at Boots for over 3 weeks, will you take the risk and wait until it's back in stock or use an equally effective antibacterial hand sanitiser, which is a different brand, a supermarket own brand??