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Hate to see people idle but also hate to see them doing something which is unproductive. Said it before productivity is the key,we can tweak the size of the labour force. By the way the "jammers" are just about fooked now.

Another anomaly Bob you could say is people doing identical work but being rewarded differently.Its complicated but are we using labour efficiently or are millions of people wasting their time,"just about managing". Still waiting for some policy for the "jammers" after TM very touching speech of July 2016.

Chancer,our unemployment is low because they are financed by tax credits/benefits,otherwise people couldn't afford to do them. Cheap labour= low unemployment,cannot see any other reason unless you think the economy is booming?

The're the worst sort,commie Tories. They say they support the war in Korea but they are really "Reds under the beds",bring back Mcarthyism. My politic's might be a little out of date!.

That would make sense in a desert!

Don't look too promising and a lot of money leaving the country.Factory ouput for April showed biggest fall in 5 yrs according to Reuters.ONS said"The total UK trade deficit widened �1.9 billion to �9.7 billion in the three months to April 2018, due mainly to falling exports of both goods and services. Goods exports fell �3.1 billion, due mainly to falls in exports of machinery, pharmaceuticals and aircraft, while services exports also fell �2.5 billion in the three months to April 2018". Think we'll need more than a free trade agreement to sort this one out. Going to have to sell some more family silver-Lloyds possibly?

LTI,yes they could,all companies seem to chuck in this 10% clause. Its a catch 22,like you the company doesn't give a monkey's what the share price is as long as they can buy up cheap shares.No-one is putting them under pressure so i've come to the conclusion it will be a trickle over a number of years which would best suit them but not shareholders. Prehaps if you lot and the rest kick up enough,they may chuck in a special,something they don't have to guarantee for the future.

Longshort,we got there in the end and if the buybacks are insufficient to cover the new shares issued then range bound it is. With the number of shares in circulation it would be in the interest of lloyds to keep the share price as low as possible if they choose to enhance the buyback or it becomes an expensive exercise. A flat dividend would sure help but it would take for ever to buy back an amount of 10% plus to make any noticeable impact.

Trumps say's America first but he didn't put America first when he dodged the draft for the Vietnam War.I think he put Donald Trump first that day and his views on John McCain's time as a prisoner of war are appauling. I can understand why the American electorate were taken in by it as much as the UK electorate would go for Britain first, but sometimes America first isn't good for us(UK). https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/02/how-donald-trump-avoided-the-draft-during-the-vietnam-war/ So its Trump in Singapore on Tuesday with Kim,not sure if this would be an America first moment or a Donald Trump in the limelight moment?.

But the biggest crime for us(lloyds) was being hoodwinked by Government into buying HBOS to stabilise the markets. Sniger in his innocent mind thought UK Gov owed us a favour for our favour-wrong again!

John,if debt is just taken on to hand out to consumers to win support and elections then its bad but if you are like say India and the money for instance is spent on 100GW of installed solar power(8 times that of UK) and the return is higher than the service charge then debt is good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country#India

John,i can live with that,US growth of 3.3% this year and 2.4% in 2019,so no armageddon this year. I feel Trumps see's a united Europe and China as his biggest threats and popularism in Europe is a useful tool for his means.Within Europe i believe making comparisons between the UK and Greece or even Italy are irrelevent.I compare the UK to the likes of Germany/France/benelux countries and Scandinavia,our close nieghbours and in the last 2 yrs we have fallen behind. UK trade fig's monday and German surplus of 19.4 billion Euro's in April will look impressive to ours. Debt is an issue and personally i hate the stuff but sometimes you have to take it on if you want to get the job done and every country does it but the UK strangely over the last 8 yrs have tried to balance the books,this was meant to end by 2015 now its going to be 2023,prehaps?.However debt has still almost doubled to �1.8 trillion due to mainly QE yet with no particular plan in mind nothing to show for it and all because our American cousins decided to wrap up some sub prime mortgages and flog them around the world-was anyone jailed for that crime.

What the US is trying to achieve is growth with inflation,that will de-value the debt.

Sorry but i thought this was the bus thread,which in fact was a coach as it travelled inter-city,lol.

Wids,shocking figures from Europe i agree.As you mention German trade surplus for April down to �19.4 billion. OK Europe is slowing but i think others here believe that would be good for UK?,that's like Canadians hoping the US economy will tank. Even the UK Government wants Europe to be a success and they can be a little dense at times!.

Boris has been trying to get the sack ever since he took on the role of foreign secretary.Resignation would imply personal failure and would ruin his future PM chance's. So lots more gaff's,leaks etc. G7 meeting today but all the players still tucked up in bed,its 5 hrs behind us.Trump going in guns all firing but have to decide whether we get a patch up final announcement and being the eternal optimist i'm inclined to think so. Not sure that will have an effect on Lloyds because its a brexit share and next week,is its week.All banks down but plumbed for RBS.Buying on a friday,am i stupid,no answers please.

You can see where its leading to,a 2nd referendum but to make it democratic the votes on the 1st one should not be wasted but accumulated with the 2nd so the remain camp have to achieve more votes by 1,269,501-bit like playing in the UEFA Champions League.

I think the Brexit minister should go to Ireland and sort it all out.Then we could say David Davis does Dublin,the sequel to Debbie does Dallas. Anyone takers on a smutty vhs tape,part worn,lol.

Phew,the thread survives.

Ifonly,one guarantee in 5yrs you'll be 5 yrs older but there is no certainty you'll be 5 yrs closer to death as holding Lloyds shares might bring it on prematurely or become a bitter and twisted old man,lol. Just speak to Oldtimeinvestor!