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You obviously didn't look at the Fidelity factsheet before you posted did you Edzi. . The ones that Seis posted are just the most up to date ones that I asked for yesterday from head office but they do not resemble those from Fidelty themselves. That is why I said we should try and establish which are the true ones if any. Why does Fil Investment International for instance not appear in the top 5 shareholders of jlp in Fidelities own list ? Can anyone elucidate? Only Fil Investment Services are listed with the 95 million shares. Seis can you shed any light on that? Edzi trusts you to do so.I too would like some facts and ( not so) common sense being used on her instead of the musings of someones brother in law or auntie ada despite where they may be in the rich list. The real question is whether people think this is a scam or whether they do have the leading edge technology ( which the brother in law doubts) to produce copper cheaply from mine tailings and ROM. I have no doubt that some normal buying and selling has been going on but anyone looking at the trades would realise that a very large block of shares was being disposed of at decreasing prices by some entity keen to get rid of them over the last month or more. These have not shown up as buys and sells in the normal way but almost all the trades in the sell column have actually been at the buy prices on offer. I'm sorry if people do not agree but the evidence is there and was for all to see. That is the main but of course not only reason that the sp has drifted. Had these all been normal buys and sells we would have been taken even lower by the mm's by now and I speak from over 30 years experience. The sales have been managed.

Showing your colours Happy? Here is the current factsheet from Fidelity with holdings over all funds.https://www.fidelity.co.uk/factsheet-data/factsheet/GB0031852162-jubilee-metals-group-plc/profile

Perhaps you can explain why Fidelity were only holding 95,720,469 over all funs by the end of August?

If it is about 40 million then that is enough over the last two months to drive the sp down in what is a fallow period where we are all waiting for news. There have still been enough buyers to pick them up at these prices but hopefully it will now be tapering off.

I'm not sure that they are correct as it was I that emailed them this morning to ask them to udate the July figures. It is possible that these are the latest they have but they have not been informed by various parties that they have changed.

And yet, It was accepted during the Charles Archer interview that there was a big seller causing problems that were beyond their control. Who would that be/ We need to get some definitive figures on here that we can all accept as they change from day to day and sometimes hour to hour.

Where are those fogures from Seis?

Edzi, I should definately have a word with your brother in law as he is wasted messing around in the property market. Perhaps he can drop Mark Slater a line and tell him where he is going wrong. Are you seriously saying that jubilee doesn't have the technology that he seems to be disparaging?Re the Fidelity Fund, it is common and undisputed knowledge that they have been shedding over 100 million shares over the past couple of months so don't obfuscate. The capacity for some on here to flagellate themselves is greater than the Catholic Illuminati. The markets are not in a forward looking mood at the moment wherever you look and even the magnificent seven have started to come under scrutiny. The number of shares sold that are visible to the market has been fairly low but on the other hand far many more are being picked up at a steady price from what seems to be a lrge seller,. Most of theseeming sells have actually been buys, In addition Slater seems to have picked up a huge amount off market probably by talking to his mates in the city. He now holds over 400 million. These facts will not go away much to the chagrin of some who wish they would. Happy, despite anything to the contrary Zeus has us at around 10p fair value without the copper expansion. I have to say I find it difficult to understand why either of you own any shares in this company, that is if you actually do!

To add to that, I see Volvo have given up on moving completely to electric by 2030. Many more will follow and Platignum metals will revive.

Sp has almost nothing to do with the price of metals or the value of jlp current or forward looking at the moment. It's all about Fidelity getting rid of all its shares as fast as possible at whatever price they can get and that leading to weak holders and chancers selling in the wake of it. We can only hang on and perhaps buy some very cheap stock at the bottom IF we have any cash. The opportunity will not come again.

Hell if it's anything like the problems with posting on here! Will it be heaven or will it be hell!!!!

I did Happy but will it be heaven or will it be happy or will it be hell?

I think they are nearly all buys moneyman. i think most are Fidelityletting the remnants go at even sillier prices.

Still, over 10k per ton in 2025 will still be positive for jlp. Not so much for those with higher extraction costs.

Ther has only been a lack of buyers if you discount the shares bought up from Fidelitys sales which may be mant many millions. People are just waiting to see the lie of the land after we get some figures. Some are selling either through boredom, fear or in the hope that they can buy back a bit cheaper. They have had quite a few tipsters pushing them though and at half fair value there should be more interest. Market is rubbish though.

Sumoskier. Everyone is probably wise to all your negative posting on here by now. If they aren't they should just click on your name and look back through them. Perhaps you thing 2p is incoming still?

Do you mean the visual grade Mikie? Cant see anything written down.

I'm still not sure that Kalans margins for copper are at all correct. Does anyone know what the latest estimates for that were? With grades around 3.5% from Munkoyo I would expect a lot better and in any case I don't expect the top end guidance to stand.

Even that should be less of a problem. We still don't know what held it up. Maybe a design problem in addition to the shipping. If so that should have been cleared up. It's all speculation.

Hopefully it will be quicker this time now they have had the experience of building the first one.

I'm not sure that it is costing them 6000k per ton to produce Kalan. I will look back through the figures.