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Transy
And a forum is not gladiators arena - thank you - it's place where experts and amateurs exchange views and learn from each other. Eg.am not an oil expert, but I bet my views on a judges wide discretion and likely spectacles he will use are pretty near the mark. Forums should be about mutually increasing knowledge a better balanced perspective

Mira
True. But re Hurr where oil price is crucial, to use futures oil price is demonstrably the WRONG metric to use, and deliberately self serving. And it is definitely NOT the industry standard way of doing so. Am sure CA on 21 June will be all over this fundamentally flawed and wrong matrix like a rash

Transy
If the jibe was aimed at me - behave - you nearly ruined a helpful post.
Thank you for explaining that likely be registrar counting etc - obvious upon reflection but we missed it - helpful
Re the 'scam' issue - come on - you know as well as we all do the term on forums is used loosely. The saying ' all that evil needs to succeed is for decent men to stand by and do nothing' is opportune. If Hurr give ERCE, PwC et all data and narrow instructions, companies are going to produce a report within their narrow remits. They could say - hang on, Hurr, it's just your data and our remit is too narrow, but they don't. A single example - PwC forward curve figures based on oil futures prices is a nonsense -a futures price is a figure which you can buy at to sell in future to make a profit, having tied your money up for yonks, it aint the expected actual price of oil. As for citing (even Maris was embarrassed saying it) that this was standard industry practice for estimating the future oil price - utter nonsense. So apply 'careful balance' when you shoot peeps down for brushstroke shouting 'scam'. Their application of the word is meaning that their is systemic manipulation of truth. By the yardstick you apply, no German should ever have felt any guilt at voting Hitler in and causing the death of circa 50-60 mill people one way or t'other

OIl Beast
Can anyone answer Beasty's question - do HURR count? Or independent? Be bloody stupid to rely on BoD threatened with sack to do counting? With absolute certainty, at some point in time, sonewhere, a corrupt BoD would fiddle the sums

flynchy
all those containing choice french words! interesting that at start, Maris said that understood PI emotion was high but anyone using choice language would be muted. not heard that said before

badger
good point/was CEO not Chairman who chaired meeting. remember CA EGM says would retain CEO and FO at present (may have changed). But Chairman not at today's meeting?

written, of course, with joker hat on..)

maris and chaffe seen in anteroom in front of 2 open bottles of whisky

helped HURR that was virtual, not public place meeting, could keep it vanilla and anodyne
but def not happy bunnies at meeting

RB a good speaker - keeps quiet and unemotional. listed times dates approached HURR, no over-egging

if had to choose - squirming rather than smug. no warmth, nothing, nada. like attending funeral had to

my overview - rb of ca speaking worked well - maris answers inadequate - whiff of naughties definitely not gone away
was surprised at lack of PI questions, either written or oral. peeps naturally afraid - online meetings not their forte, understandable. were a few decent PI questions

all over
how quick will RNS come out?
my joker hat on - broker will have passed all nominee votes to HURR. How much does one trust HURR not to miscount? having seen most of everything in my life - wouldn't trust at all. reminder - joker hat on

meeting over
maris and chaffe deadpan - clearly not happy but knew today was vanilla exercise - they know how to act calm

results announced by RNS asap (as quick as bondholder meeting?)
meeting closing

silence as peeps vote

chair turning to vote procedure
hurr reps at meeting are chair and FO chaffe

all via lumi moderator so stilted. bernstein ended, was polite, knew would get vanilla answers and 21 june is big date

rb - answer hannam report issue - why forget their report? maris - vanilla response yardy ya etc
question - appointing our NED to board did not require priviliged info being released, so why not respond to us?
maris - we will have to disagree

what were may 2021 oil and price in plan projections compared to May 21 actuals announced recently?
answer - look it up in Plan documents (they dont want to give as projections were much less than actuals)