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To stop allowing others to join and advance closer to Russia. They defaulted on that agreement.

It all boils down to if you’re gullible enough to beleive that it was just a little chat that never got finalised or if the treaty has been broken.

Even if it wasn’t (which it was) Nato must surely have the brains to not allow such a corrupt nation to join them on Russias doorstep. They knew they would get the reaction and this is the result of what they wanted.

No,no. I understand perfectly, it’s just the irony of you listing the lies you once lapped up and now beleiving this one as truth and not learning from that past. Ofcourse you will pretend that you knew all along that Iraq was a lie but the truth is none of us did. It really is quite incredible how you can go back into a trance even after been knowingly lied to so many times.

The sad thing is we also live in an age where information is controlled, (yes our media do it as much as China etc) so unless you learn from past events, you a literally doomed to repeat them. You can only learn from what you have been shown, not what you read.

Lastly your “no country joined NATO since 2004” comment shows that you are completely unaware of the treaty in 91 to “not advance one inch east” from that point .

Ofcourse our media say this was just a meeting and nothing was agreed, but if your gullible enough to think these two military super powers come together and have a little chat and just forget about it then maybe I’m wasting my time.

Since then NATOs excuse has been “well we didn’t advance, they joined and we accepted”. NATO HAD a responsibility

You realise how you have just confined my point? 😂

Oh do you really believe we are always the good guys?

What were you saying about being gullible?

We heard your little saying the first time Peterpharma and no one cared, you don’t need to keep repeating it.

We don’t benefit from war, but the globalist war machine does.

Ironic really, this all started because of nato expansion onto Russias doorstep, and now they are trying to say Russia are playing hard ball for not allowing “peacekeeping” troops stationed on their doorstep.

Almost like it’s been the intention all along.

Oh btw Ukraine, we will need paying back so we will just take your resources, but we need boots on the ground to maintain “peace”. Ofcourse we are the good guys though. Iraq and WOMD was just an honest mistake.😉😂😂

I get the feeling MMs just want sellers again. They don’t seem to be getting any

So 2025 is a write off with high extremely high capex then..

Exactly sandancer, she’s a terrible ceo who’s achieved nothing for us. HBR is now back to being a huge PMO.

Just took £30k at 190 to start.

I feel for all holders here, for those heavily in the red, I’ve been there, remeber it’s only money. Easier said than done sometimes

Critical thinking for your quite clearly isn’t obvious.

Nav mike ,Even better when you realise the yanks were the ones who actually blew up the pipeline to stop Russian energy supply.

https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/22973-us-and-norway-blew-up-the-nord-stream-pipelines-seymour-hersh.html

This was always a demolition of our energy sector and the WT was intended to kill it off.

And public record you say? You mean like Iraq? You’re blurting gibberish without even thinking about the last 20 years of lies. But hey, they wouldn’t lie this time would they?

The danger of media is when your force fed one sided propaganda you become brainwashed and genuinely think you’re always the ‘good guys’.

I will use history, past conflicts and lies, and critical thinking.

Grez. You are absolutely right, that goes to you aswell. The only difference is I have just explained and proven what they are doing now they are chasing resources as payment.

You have a copy and paste article from the same people wanting to take the resources.

Who’s more credible? It is literally there in black and white, they want boots on the ground and payment in resources? You’re not even the slightest bit suspicious this was their intention all along? 😂 wow

History.

Again, if you’re going to be spoon fed the same lies by one side then you’re never going to grasp it are you?

I mean, why did all Russia news get banned from reaching the U.K. when the war started? I’ll give you a clue… it wasn’t so you could get both sides of the story and form your own opinion.

If you’re really naive enough to beleive russia and NATO come together to discuss their expansion and just had a little chat about it then forgot about it, then I don’t know if there’s any helping you.

Your look for confirmation on these things from the same ones who jibbed on the agreement, what are you expecting to read? “ ahh yes, we did agree to that but we changed our minds and said all are welcome here in nato, we can station boots on the ground and missile silos on Russias doorstep, but don’t worry because we are the good guys” 😉.

Ah well mogger, you can always get your boots on and do your bit? But like all of you who lap up the MSM propaganda, you’re never quick to get stuck in? It’s ok when it’s other people’s sons and daughters getting killed.

Do I think Russia are rosey? Not at all? Do I think Ukraine is one of the most corrupt nations on earth, absolutely.

The only difference is I know ours is aswell.

Start a war, throw hundreds of billions at a country you know can’t pay it back, not to worry! We will take your resources instead and even better we will have a military presence there to protect them.

F me it’s painful that I have to explain this stuff.

Jesus wept.

Apologies to the bb, I realise this isn’t the place for this and some have different views.

Back to oil and gas…

Imagine reposting a think tank as a source that is from Westminster and genuinely believing you’re getting an honest opinion from the same prople pushing the wars. 😂 like I said, people are thick and you just fell into that category.

Mogger, reposting sources produced by the same MSM telling the lies isn’t credible mate. 😂

Again, would you like to talk me through the Iraq war or are we just forgetting that because once upon a time you will have been lapping those lies up aswell.

free russia from what?

are you blind to see we have a dictator running our country? locking people up for hurty words on social media? robbing pensioners and farmers and every working man in this country to give 5x that to ukraine in one hit?

what happened to the £20b black hole a month ago? we just found an extra 10% for a random war?

don’t tell me the west want peace because i will laugh my **** off.

history repeats itself until people learn, people are thick so it’s a struggle,

that nato would not advance “1inch” east from that point on.

then research how many countrys have joined since that point right into russias doorstep.

nato have lied again, and again.

the reason this war began was because nato were welcoming ukraine to join. russia have sat back and took enough and now nato got the response they wanted.

now the us want peace have you noticed it’s all about “peacekeeping” boots on the ground? they are pushing for nato boots on the ground to escalate the war as they planned. they can stage an attack (like they have done many times in history) and pull the us back into the fight via nato.

it’s a very dangerous time, and i for one have watched our media lie my whole life to create wars. womd in iraq? whoops, just another honest mistake.

russia doesn’t give too ****s about taking ukraine (apart from the parts that voted russian in a referendum but the west choose to ignore) never mind taking europe. just desperate lies by the msm to get the public to support this push for war, again,