RE: Great day7 May 2023 11:14
Cindercone they did not say 5400 mtV needed. The actual quote below clearly indicates that production of around 5000 mtV would be enough to trigger the phased expansion, plus necessary funding which as I have already indicated could easily come from cash flow, and as I have already demonstrated that is certainly achievable in 2024.
From RNS 22 June 2022
“Our immediate short-term focus is to ensure that the production base continues to be stable and sustainable, as we ramp up production towards the run rate of 5,000 - 5,400 mtVp.a…. “ ( Edit: timetable has slipped a bit through load shedding but still the target.)
And:
“We recently announced the key findings of the feasibility and pre-feasibility studies regarding the optimal path forward to increase Vametco and Vanchem's production to 8,000 mtVp.a. The expansion will be conducted in phases and will only be pursued once we have met our short-term performance goals of 5,000 - 5,400 mtVp.a. and secured the necessary funding.”
In fact every single RNS reference refers to 5000 to 5400 mtV, not 5400. The latter number is purely your selective and inaccurate reference.
I fully support your use of facts to support your opinion but you must quote them accurately.
Now we need to look at HarChris original post, quote:
“The plan will be to kick on with the 4 stage expansion to 8000mtV as soon as the 5000mtV steady state run rate is achieved"
Every part of that I agree with. He clearly stated the START (“kick on”) of the process, which I also referred to. Your answer was:
“Not a cat in hell's chance of this happening for at least 5 years, unless V prices hit $60 and stay there, permanently.”
Your answer therefore talks about the start of the process and I cannot agree at all with your timescale or V price requirement.
In your later post however you now refer to the end of the process “Hence why I really can't see 8000mtv coming to fruition …” which neither of us discussed. So either you misread HarChris post or you wrote an unclear and misleading answer in your first post.
So in summary, given the cash generation that I have outlined earlier, it is quite possible for the staged expansion to begin late 2024, although I think 2025 is more likely. Even with a modest rise in V price in response to the rapid rise in VRFB projects the company will generate enough cash to meet all its needs and BEGIN the phased expansion programme. No wild guesses involved, just hard logic based upon known facts. No guarantees either of course.
When the process of expansion to 8000 mtV ENDS it is not possible for me to say. Way too many variables so no ‘wild guesses’.
And let me remind you once again of the following:
None of my numbers allow for the Nitrovan premium price over FeV.
No account is given for any revenue from electrolyte sales.
No allowance made for the prices achieved for sales of high value specialised prices and vanadium chemicals.