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All very confusing to a non accountant like me Parkez but the fact is that somehow these options have cost the balance sheet money. I don't care how brilliant they are and how good what they produce is they aren't selling enough of them so why should we reward them to this extent ? I seriously fear that CPX cant cope with enormity of the market they are in. Also where is evidence that TDK are to pay huge licence fees

But options normally allow you to buy at a reduced price in which case it doesn't cost just has a diluting effect.

I recall this being mentioned sometime ago but could someone please explain to me in Janet and John terms what this cost is all about i.e. nearly 20% of all revenue. I understand the principle of rewarding employees as a part of any company's success but at this stage of its development CPX is still not trading at a profit so on what has this cost been incurred and why?

I am saying nothing but royalty revenue up just 29% including AVX fee !! Lets hope 18/19 is indeed the year of transition, Subdued a good word Parkez

Anthony Joshua next ?

IWgrod . I concur

What is illegal about it . It is my opinion. The plain fact is that you don't agree with anything other than your assessment that this share is a dead cert, whereas I urge caution as there is no such thing . Get a life TT and realise that you are not the only one with an opinion

The question is how much will it fall after the results RNS. Most informed commentators will know that the 17/18 results are meaningless in that the hope is that 18/19 will show "an explosion". Those who don't know the share will see yet another loss and slag it off. So I expect a drop tomorrow and then hope the upward trend continues afterwards. Only fresh news will maintain this as we to wait until March for the first indication of the hoped for "year of transition". Not slagging off CPX just saying how I see it.

Ironic I suggest you need a crystal ball. Plenty on here have been trying to predict the answers before. The signs and talk look and sound good but so they have before. The question is this year the "real deal"? If so its certainly about time. The problem is there is too much speculation about a) us guaranteed to win patent case b) huge increases in royalties c) direct sales taking off d) automotive etc etc . As I said before you depends on how lucky you feel as none of us knows for sure.

Absolutely Parkez. we know roughly what they will say. The only thing that will be interesting is the percentage increase in royalties and what proportion of total revenue they form. In previous years AVX and Murata have only been generating £3.5k per week each, peanuts really. The golden years with each licensee when they are paying licence fees so AVX will need to increase many fold to make a real difference year on year. Essentially we have to show growth on all fronts

Watch out chaps FRACKING has arrived in the UK

There you are make a relevant post and the immediate action is to have a pop. You are not nice people to deal with. Your only form of reaction is personal attack. Turning to 17/18 results, revenue has been peanuts languishing in the $A3-4ms for 4/5 years, we need to see the $A5m threshold broken and no worsening of the 16/17 loss figure. But if we don't no doubt the rampers will say don't worry 18/19 is the year of transformation , which is of course what they have said for the last two years. So for me the results are relatively unimportant as 18/19 is the "make or break" year.

There is no direct evidence of any TDK misdemeanours only suspicion. To a degree it does not matter as we appear to be the winners. Come what may any compensation will have to be accounted for and I don't care what heading it goes under. We do CPX no favours by speculating as I guess they want to close the discussion and count their winnings.

Kencarv Do you honestly believe that the LSE board will be the first port of call for anyone who is interested in investing in CPX. The people with real money who to a certain degree control the price don't come any where near this relatively insignificant forum

So how important is it if CDE is not even in the top 25 distributors of super caps. It will hopefully send a message but how much money will it make? We shall see.

Meanwhile Murata and AVX paid about £188k each in royalties in 16/17 ie total of £375k . Whats your prediction for 17/18 . I say no more than double ie max £750k A$1.4m

For the record I am well happy with the recent rise, long may it continue. However, I have been here 5 or 6 times before and seen companies wither, fail or be subject to scandalous take overs. I may be an old cynic but the expressions “all that glisters is not gold” and “there is no such thing as a dead cert” and "nothing is forever" resonate with me. I urge all investors to set an exit target and not get sucked into the “this is a licence to print money share”. As an example, I bought AFC at 8p and didn’t sell at 57p now its down to 6p.

It has been suggested by some that the recent deal was "not straightforward" because of the confidentiality agreement. If indeed the arrangement is not entirely new it will interesting to see how they account for any possible large chunks of revenue

Who cares what you think TT. I never rubbish your posts so please allow me the right to put my point of view. You have regularly tried to discredit me personally and every time you have come up short . So please go and PUAR as AW used to say

Hooray somebody agrees with me. The problem is that one off licence fees mask the true underlying profitability of the company. My point is that as one drops out you need another to take its place to stand still. Royalties will increase but they are in total only about 18% of revenue. For the next year or so royalties alone will not put us into profit. What we need to know about TDK is it a new licence or "something else"

iwto The results due on the 17th will show a loss and relate to the period up to 30 June so I doubt there will be any new one offs in there, Incidentally the only thing short about me is my height . Still a good day bought a new motor £24k and my shares went up £27k . Thanks cobber