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Price drop, volume rises 100 notout.

Volume was going nowehere. Now up to 3.7Million

Any guesses on the size of the UT?

Make that 1.5 million

Starting to recover again. Afternoon thing?

The dip let somebody get about a million shares

Stonking !!

Good question Forsythew,

I make that today it's market makers restocking their reserves, as todays volume overall is only a fraction of yesterdays, and suspect there will be even more buying than yesterdays 2:1 ratio. They also seems to be a deliberately starving the Bid side of the trades, so ithe impression is that its all one way traffic downwards.

That can all change, at the flick of a switch. Anyones guess when.

Investor95,

I don't think MM owns a yacht just yet, although he did mention yachts in the Times Profile piece, in the same breath as stating he knew the share price would be much higher if he stepped aside and people I think had been encouraging him to sell up and sail off into the sunset. So unless he has purchased one recently it might be chartered.

He's is clearly making his money invested elsewhere than here.

We can only hope its a pre-retirement test drive.

If its any comfort to you TGL only got an 80% re-election vote last year.

A shareholder consultation was triggered on Iain Mcdonald with a 76% vote a year or two before, Albeit if you remember THG forgot to update in the 6 month timeframe, and then had to grovel out imo a lame apology which paid lip service to shareholders. He ultimately stepped down and was gone shortly after.

There are several good companies amidst THG, but collectively no overall profit and dividends and imvho there is a lack of dynamics wishing to review the all business and exit any loss makers, probably as they all feed into Ingenuity volumes.

It needs fundamental change, then the shorts might slacken the neckhold.

The thing is that it is so obvious to see and I just don't get why shareholders are happy to vote for more of the same, year after year.

Cantbelieveit,

They haven't just newly appeared. Lots sit just under the 0.5% threhold and then go a little more short so you think they are new. Done either to con people into selling so either they can either close, or go long, or do both. Most will have a counterbalancing long position, though you never see that as the lowest disclosure threshold for share holdings is considerably higher at 3%. Creates a disproportionate view imvho.

The more fundamental question is why are they here in such numbers in the first place, and why have they been here for donkeys years? and in no real rush to leave?

I don't think it has silenced them, I actually think someone felt threatened and acted, and that therafter optionally Kelso have decided not to now speak up in favour of the company, publicise it or MyProtein in particular, now trade it with CFD's, and they are looking to get their money back and leave.

Shame really for they were the best PR and Investor Relations that the company ever had.

So here we are at 33p waiting for next news, VAT or AGM statement, A bid or diposal. or for the shorts to let go of the stranglehold they have on the share price.

Here's a starter for ten.

There is clearly a range of "high quality Non-Recognised brands" particularly in THG Beauty and whereby the Sum of parts of all the businesses is far greater than the Market Cap. Can anyone tell me what the strategy is to get these recognised and valued accordingly? I follow all news on the company and news about it and I honestly couldn't tell you the answer, other than dispose of some non-core assets of the price is right.

*highest*

Unfortunately samb69 they were actually good for the company, and led it to some of it's highets share prices.

Then there was also the "my dogs got more" comment

It's really hard not to argue that the holde they have dug themselves, and are presently in, is of their own doing.

Lets say 3 years on, where are the share buy backs, dividends, profits, still chasing the rainbows of growth - anybody dared to ask, for what purpose?

Forgot to say.

I also see the Naked Trader sold on a high, and rebought yesterday if memory serves me correctly.

They took profit on what wasn't really a big holding having made stellar gains in short order.

That suited them and their constitution.

In no way did it account for the fall to 280 ish and the subsequent rebound.

Nice further rebound this morning btw.

I think it's probably because they have given up on it.

They look to add their expertise and flag companies for HF's to take over. In fairness they did both here with well documented advice, and attracted in the Apollo Bid, somewhere between 225p and 250p being what was rumoured.

But the Apollo bid was rejected as significantly undervaluing THG, MM then went Pacman defence against Kelos by buying into Kelso, and then released a comment in an interview that 95% of all advice given goes in the bin.

Now here we are some 2 if not 3 years later, virtually all the same people on the Board and in Executive positions and at 33p.

"Again, isn’t it too much of a coincidence that the 2 short positions are upped the day before the fall ? Must be linked with Liberum somehow… shame shorting isn’t more regulated."

It does seriously make you wonder. Will the FCA do anything about it, probably not.

But remember the short profit is only realised when they buy back what they short sold and return the shares to the lender, and they do provide cheaper opportunity.

For an 8% to 10% recovery off todays low.

It'll probably make the rest of it all back tomorrow.

Then we start to guess who acquired all the shares.

Nice recovery today. Had to bounce at some point.

Tell me also guys and gals.

Who marks these analysts homework? Who actually checks their working out? Valid questions.

It never ceases to amaze me how multiple analaysts can all be presented with the exact same figures and metrics, all presumably have the same accounting standard background and knowing the key numbers to work out: P/E's / PEG ratios etc. Yet can all arrive at completely different numbers.

Why on the one hand do we even have Buy side and on the other Sell side analysts. For the sake of all investors where is the objectivity?

It's just an observation but if you look at mosts shares always seems to have at least one set of analysts that stand out against the crowd.

Sorry if I come across as ranty, but this is how the retail investor sees things.

Shobbit I wasn't aware of the instances with Peel but that looks like a striking example.

Don't some of these so called Brokers even act as Market Makers in some instances?

Somebody needs to do a complete Ethics sweep of the City for it seems riddled with potential for abuse, and no real apparent "sterile corridors" bewteen differing parts of the same organisation.

We should all speak to our MP's and actually see if we can get some day trips to see how these organisations actually control information. I'd love to be proved wrong but I'll bet most all several departments all sit in the same open plan offices, with nothing more than partititions.

I just hate to see the small retail investor have his shares stolen from him, so some other big fish can profit.

Imo