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Trying to be negative after that is flogging a dead horse.

And another point, it clearly shows Abingdon are the ones running things so its not really ODX taking their time is it. And by taking their time do you mean producing something in record time in about a tenth of the time it might normally take?

Oh and that other company, AVCT by any chance. More chance of seeing 30p there than here IMHO, and if you did sell at 84 to buy there you are 30% down, so you would be better off at 70p here!!!

Its basically as good as telling you which horse is going to win a race before the race.

"critical planning around supply chain logistics is also well under way"

Boots/Amazon?!

It shows the app and data logging is directly related to Test and track and probably why the nhs app is delayed.

The consortium is working with NHSX to develop a test specific app and digital service that will facilitate use and reading of the test device. This will have the ability to integrate with NHS systems and update records.

Excellent! :)

Yes it repetitively keeps legging up higher and consolidating.

Pumpky please stop going on about a small cleaning company just because they have one new contract with the word Covid in it. There are other shares to invest in and trade we know that, but we are here for the number one, most interesting, most important Covid testing strategy and high growth diagnostics business that will become the backbone of the UKs future healthcare strategy. Talking about rises in shirt specific times to suit an agenda is pointless. You could have had ODX from 7p to 90p in the space of a couple of months if you were that good, which trumps the lot and is likely to move up another 1-200 % very soon

No the antibody market is 100% of the population several times over.

My guess there will be 10 x as many antibody tests taken as antigen tests.

So far UK have tested 4.5m people. They were talking of ordering 50m POC antibody tests for starters.

Antibody tests would be taken by the majority of people if offered one today if only out of curiosity if nothing else. Most people wouldn't have bothered getting a swab test and at the peak of the outbreak swab tests were only available to select groups meaning the carriers from the peak will show up in antibody testing. We have spare capacity going unused every day, the desire to get tested and the need to get tested isn't as high as our capacity. R is reducing, and the testing window for antigen testing is so small, 3-5 days for ideal detection accuracy, whereas the testing period for antibodies is from now into perpetuity. The areas where there will be regular testing is not that big a market. Antibody tests will be repeated whether negative (continued testing in case infected) or positive (monitor progression and length of antibodies).

This is by far the biggest opportunity in the Covid testing space, because it will be a gold standard test with no other relevant competition IMO

I think they are already a pawn in a game of chess. So what - if ultimately it leads us to be able to manufacture millions of tests from an opportunity that would not have presented itself if we were not part of this Government led consortium.
Once design freeze is achieved, there will be a preferred order from the government which must be fulfilled, and then Omega can commercialise as it sees fit.

I really think this is mainly about logging and collection of data now and then what the result means. What's the benefit in selling millions of tests for people to get a result without collection of that data? The data is way more valuable than the investment in the test, remember this is not just about commercialising a product this is about providing a solution to beat a pandemic. The specification of the product has to extend to the feedback loop via results and data capture IMO.

To collect the data firstly you need a system. Which sounds like an app, from what CK has said and looking at the switch from Abingdon and BBI from to talking about tracking apps. We know the NHS app is delayed and sounds like not good enough. Look at the solutions Abingdon offer and how this can take the test and trace to a world leading solution that BJ talked about.

Secondly you need an incentive to get people to log the results. Data protection no doubt problematic so they need to find a way to incentive's people to log results.

Finally what does a result mean if its negative or positive? The further relaxation of lockdown measures take away a lot of the problems which could me those with antibodies are granted additional privileges. The government have always said antibodies are the key to unlock the country.

Antibody tests are ongoing. It may well be many more have immunity than we think. But it is heading towards the herd immunity approach in stealth, which means slowly growing natural immunity until a vaccine can accelerate this.

So for me, design freeze is:
A test that is 100% accurate
Integrated logging system, app or website
Information and packaging messaging

You cannot offer the product up for distribution until above is all achieved otherwise the whole point of developing the tests in the first place is circumvented. Every test result leads to a knock on reaction, they are not investing in these just so we can take them ourselves for our own piece of mind and keep the result to ourselves.

My personal opinion is that design freeze is a fairly loose term that is open to interpretation and that they may well be hiding behind this ambiguity, which is evident in the fact that nobody really knows what it means. But for me design freeze means the product is good to go from factory to shelf, and there is more to it that the assay strip.

Danny Diggits - up to your eyeballs, but the first time you post on here was regarding the Speeding ticket, the second time is about a story from "friends" at the NHS.
I am not interested in whether an email is genuine or not, but i'll assume it is. The contents of the email is consistent with the narrative that we already have been told. Nothing in there surprising or of concern because we know if it said anything different we would be £1.30 plus by now.
But i do suggest the story is being used to lead a conclusion from that email response. But there are some obvious floors in the story.
A simple understanding of how lab tests and lateral flow tests work will help

I am sure NHS staff have a lot more to worry about thangossip about antibody tests, or is it swabbing. I am also sure the RTC would not roll these out for NHS staff to validate, after some of the greatest expert minds have been evaluating them themselves.
The test stage of the finger prick tests will only be to test ease of use, not to test the quality or accuracy of the tests, this will be done before.
Finally a finger prick blood sample is more than enough to detect antibodies. The presence of antibodies is due to the time after infection and the body's response to it, and not due to the quantity of blood. The accuracy of these tests is to do with the antigen used to identify the virus and identify specifically Sarvs Covid 2. Quantity of blood is not not a restricting factor. There are many existing tests out there for other medical reasons that use a finger prick blood sample and you need about 1/8th of a teaspoon for them to be effective.

Huge Elephant in the room.

I still stand by my thoughts that this test is good to go, its the app and the timing of the "so what" i.e. what does it mean to test positive for antibodies. The first phase of the antibody study ended last week.

POSTI, you could also have had only 80,000 of these had you traded it

All the Covid stocks are getting canned today. I am confident ODX will outshine them all as we havn't even got started yet and the POC tests will be one of the most important and biggest selling medical devices of our generation.

Strangely enough the RTC are focused on development and roll out of tests to help the survival of millions of people, and not the trading positions of nervous PIs. The Government also have their own agenda which doesn't prioritise our share price.
When the times right it will come, we know it is time critical, it's not going to be weeks from here it's going to be days.

So it looks like dogs are going to make the need for Antigen testing redundant!! I hope they can't smell antibodies!!! lol woof woof

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-detection-dogs-trial-launches

Well its not really a delay as they have always said June.
But it seems to me there are 2 things to be established.
1) The app - CK mentioned developing an app, the NHS app is delayed because it seems to be it was useless. Abingdon and BBI have both moved on from talking about lateral flow tests to talking about apps and data. Look at test and trace and how this can take it to the world leading solution BJ talked about.
2) The "so what". What does a positive antibody test mean for certification, safety freedom of movement etc. They will not want the masses getting tests and demanding special treatment because of immunity. The easing of lockdown restrictions make this much more straightforward now because the will no longer give such special privileges to those with immunity if most of the country is back up and running.

This is why i think they are taking their time. All the clues suggests the development stage is successful. It's of political interest to time the release of these tests appropriate.

The national study on antibody tests phase one is complete. Plan is to expand this further and test regularly for 12 months. So all the timing critical pieces of the science, up-scaling of manufacturing capacity, easing of lockdown restrictions etc are all coming to a bottleneck, and that will be the perfect time to release the antibody tests IMO.