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There is absolutely nothing wrong with being optimistic or pessimistic regarding this share provided that it is based on facts. There are too many posters now on this site who speak what is basically a load of crap to put it nicely. They spout off at the slightest increase or decrease making wild forecasts. I know there will always be idiots who pop up on boards just to wind people up ( just ignore those -- you know who they are ) but for all the others please assess all the facts before making wild comments and let's get this board real again.
The fact is at the moment things don't look good. The ominous word change from shareholders to stakeholders in the last rns , the insurers of the bonding instructing advisers to sit in at the negotiating table , the quietness off the bod , Luftansa out of the picture. A lot of you on here don't realise the significance of these points and how negative these points are.
I am a long time invester in Tcg , much longer than most of you on here and I want Tcg to recover and do well but I am also a realist and face facts ( a fact that some on here can't do ) without as I said spouting utter crap that a lot on here do.
Please get real, and think first then post!,

Obviously placed a low bid which has been rejected. Assumably the reason the bod has been quiet is because the bids for the airline are low.

Very , very unusual for the insurers who provide the bonding cover for Tcg to appoint advisers!! Very difficult to analyse this move and determine why but it seems to suggest to me that the insurers are concerned about Tcg. Cant think of any other logical motive. Time will tell.

So many wonderful memories from the Masai Mara. The 3 that stand out are seeing thousands of wildebeest crossing the Mara river during the migration , coming across a black rhino and it's calf and the mother charging ( no puns please about how much ) our vehicle and just managing to get out of the way before it hit us and being face to face with a cheatah when it jumped on top of our vehicle as we were stood up through the the hatch. Think we were staying at Intrepids camp at the time.

So many wonderful memories from the Masai Mara. The 3 that stand out are seeing thousands of wildebeest crossing the Mara river during the migration , coming across a black rhino and it's calf and the mother charging ( no puns please about how much ) our vehicle and just managing to get out of the way before it hit us and being face to face with a cheatah when it jumped on top of our vehicle as we were stood up through the the hatch. Think we were staying at Intrepids camp at the time.

Yes it is. Have been to Kenya many times and love going on safaris , particularly to the Masai Mara. It's my favourite place.

That it's not an issue wherever you are is good but it is a big issue here in the UK. Tui , Otb , and Dart will be all too pleased to take any of Tcgs fearful customers.

Might have poor weather here in the UK but the question is , how many people have been put off booking with Thomas Cook because of all the negative press? Holiday planners will have this in their minds when looking to book and most will not like the uncertainty surrounding TC. Ok they may be covered if TC collapse as regards getting their money back but they wouldn't want to miss out on their holiday if the collapse is before their departure. The next quarterly update could go either way.

The change from the word shareholder in the rns of 23rd May to stakeholder in the rns of 10th June is very specific. It has been changed for a reason and to me it suggests that the bods priorities are not with shareholders and is an ominous change of wording!

I thought it a bit odd myself that Tcg used the word stakeholder as opposed to shareholder in the rns. There is a big difference. A shareholder is always a stakeholder in a company but a stakeholder is not always a shareholder! A shareholder owns part of a company through shares of stock but a stakeholder has an interest in a company for reasons other than stock value ie creditors.. Assumably Tcg are referencing its creditors AND SHAREHOLDERS by specifically saying stakeholders , at least I hope they are.

Don't be naive Bluelight! Companies will do whatever it takes either openly or subversively to increase bids. Nothing to do with informing private investors , it's about making more money. You missed my point!

If there were any good high offers , wouldn't the bod be shouting about it in public or leaking it out to encourage others to up theirs?

Dont be naive and think it is just shorts that is bringing this down. Some in the city know something that we don't. Insiderer knowledge? Insider trading? Yes it does happen so dont think it dosnt! We will know soon enough the reason for this big drop and i suspect its not good news regarding the offers for the airline which i suspect will be significantly lower than what most on this board expects!!

Totally agree with your comments about many of the present posters. There are a lot of idiots on here at the moment , I think they flit from company to company when difficulties arise. Not worth lowering yourself to their level , there will always be people like this. Just ignore their posts.

Isn't it strange how so many new posters suddenly appear on boards when a company is having difficulties. Reminds me of the DREGS when a teabag bursts! I suppose these people are exactly what they appear to be. Sad really but says a lot about them dosnt it!

On a lighter note , Thomas Cook are selling holidays tonight on Ideal World ( freeview 22 ) at 7pm , the first time ive seen them on here.

Mr F certainly dosnt seem to give a damn! His comment that he isn't there for the sp is absolutely astounding!!

Both 6.30 and news at ten on iITV have their teeth into Tcg. I know their in a mess but why does the media always seem to highlight Tcgs loss making whereas Tui are never mentioned!!

The 300 mil loan facility is dependant on the sale of the airline so they now have no choice but to sell , they have no option but to sell which is not conducive to getting a good price. And what happened to the 400 mil funding previously stated. Has this now been limited to 300 mil by the creditors because the airline bids are low?

For sure the results will be disappointing at best. The bod have been too quiet for it to be anything else! How the markets see it i think will depend on any other simultaneous news regarding financing , airline sale etc. Could hold its own if the other news is good. If not , well i dont know what will happen? Let's just hope for the best and see what tomorrow brings.